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Simon@ Clearview contractors

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 08:42:29 pm »
A company rang me last summer to go and price all the tesco metros and petrol stations in east lancashire.  When I told himmy price he nearly choked, then went onto offer me half my quote. ::)

I wished him luck in finding a cleaner and hung up.

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 08:45:12 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D real ,money grabbers
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 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2010, 08:46:38 pm »
Tesco divide the country into regions. They also have separate divisions for Express, Superstores and Metros. They have many different companies contracted to do the cleaning in different divisions and areas of the country.

Tesco work this way to keep the cleaning contractors on their toes and play one off against the other to drive prices down as low as possible. The contractors then have to screw their employees as hard as possible.

The company I worked for recently cut both the hourly rate and the number of hours of all their cleaners in a superstore. The guy who cleaned the bakery area had been on £6+ and allowed 4 hours to do the job. This was cut to £5.74 and 3 hours to do the same job.

I worked for two of Tesco's contact cleaning companies. They were not happy times. I'd avoid them.

mark dew

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 08:55:32 pm »
marcus norton had several tescos awhile back. Around lincolnshire and east anglia i think it was.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 08:57:33 pm »
Steve

Email sent

daz1977

Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2010, 10:32:07 am »
Tesco divide the country into regions. They also have separate divisions for Express, Superstores and Metros. They have many different companies contracted to do the cleaning in different divisions and areas of the country.

Tesco work this way to keep the cleaning contractors on their toes and play one off against the other to drive prices down as low as possible. The contractors then have to screw their employees as hard as possible.

The company I worked for recently cut both the hourly rate and the number of hours of all their cleaners in a superstore. The guy who cleaned the bakery area had been on £6+ and allowed 4 hours to do the job. This was cut to £5.74 and 3 hours to do the same job.

I worked for two of Tesco's contact cleaning companies. They were not happy times. I'd avoid them.

i got told sort of the same thing from the a guy who works at st austell tesco,   says they murder to work for, as they red card everything, want it doing again,

mark_a

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2010, 12:02:16 pm »
i clean one of the big food chains wont said what one just incase its gets back to them but the moneys always on time but what you get paid for each store and the crap you have to take i wish i didnt ,i clean 4 stores a day in and out and you have to clean all trolley bays and they check before signing your paperwork they think they own you i start at 3am home about 10am then out again doing houses.i wish i had more houses so i can give the stores up. :'(

ian1972

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2010, 12:06:45 pm »
wouldnt do any major super market stores aviod them at all costs

Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2010, 12:09:40 pm »
Tesco uses a RAG audit. RAG stands for Red Amber and Green.

The cleaning specification is tied down very tightly. Every single part of the store is described and there's a "what clean looks like" statement for each. Every week, the entire store is inspected and each area given a green, amber or red rating.

At the end, the number of greens, ambers and reds is counted and an overall score calculated and the audit is then scored.

It sounds very fair and accurate. If an area is clean it gets scored green. If it's not, it gets a red. However, things are always subjective and a store manager can always find a fault if s/he wants to. I know of one store where the (menopausal) manageress always gave red audits no matter what the store looked like. She thought that she was being clever and driving up the quality of the cleaning by saying that clean wasn't good enough. She wanted spotless and mirror-finish on everthing. In the end, the cleaner gave up trying and the store became filthy!

Of course, what the store manager was doing was bullying. You might imagine that the cleaning company area manager would stand up to this and insist on the audits being done fairly. But no. The cleaning company area manager simply passed on the bullying down the line to the store cleaner. "You've got to keep the customer happy," was his constant sheep-like bleating. And this guy was so proud of his RSM army background!

The cleaning contractors try to outdo each other in meanness and penny pinching. They pay minimum wage and keep the hours down so it's never quite a full-time job. They skimp on chemicals and supplies. Most of the workers in some stores are Eastern European with little or no English. The companies' attitude is that if the don't like it, they can just pack it in. If the store is then short staffed, the cleaning manager has to do the work.

Of course, the cleaning is not done by Tesco employees, but by cleaning companies' employees. But they're not cleaning companies, they are managing companies who manage the in-store cleaners. By and large, the managers have absolutely no idea about cleaning. They have never done the job, only ever seen it done.

I had one manager who tried using a scrubber drier one day. It was quite an old Numatic machine. He didn't even know that there was a manual valve to control the water flow. This valve is often shut off after the machine is used to prevent any leaking. When it's started the next day, the valve is opened. He didn't know this. He threw off his jacket, took off his tie and said, "I'll show you how to do it." and cleaned the entire shop floor with just a dribble of water to the pad. You can imagine what a rotating abrasive pad did to the floor working almost dry.

The same manager used the identical machine in a different store. On this machine, the valve was good and didn't leak, but the vacuum side was very temperamental. It would wash the floor beautifully, but you had to be very wary of the seal on the dirty water collection drum. He didn't know this. He left the floor looking like a wet motorway covered with a thin film of dirty water. Rather than mopping it up, he called me to drive 60 miles to fix it.

Having had experience with Tesco and the cleaning companies, I'd always advise anyone to avoid both.

Work for yourself, or work for a small local company where the boss has built it up from a one-man-show to a thriving company. But keep away from national companies.

Thanks CIU. This rant is now over.

steve a

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2010, 01:10:59 pm »
used to clean tescos north west for carlisle cleaning were done every week now iv heard they not having the,m done at all

Hi Lammy, which did you clean in the north west, I also cleaned some Tesco's in NW for a company called NIC which had the contract before carlisle cleaning.

Where are you based. i cleaned fr wrexha,m to holyhead ,porthmadog ludlow shrewsbury all over really i,m in wrexham

I am based in Preston and did the few around the preston/leyland area, just 5 stores and only one of them had a pain in the arse manager. The rest were fine and priced OK till they decided to cut prices and knock off the cushy bits like sign cleaning and doing inside every month instead of every 2 weeks.

Steve

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Who cleans Tesco
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2010, 01:56:14 pm »
used to clean tescos north west for carlisle cleaning were done every week now iv heard they not having the,m done at all

Hi Lammy, which did you clean in the north west, I also cleaned some Tesco's in NW for a company called NIC which had the contract before carlisle cleaning.

Where are you based. i cleaned fr wrexha,m to holyhead ,porthmadog ludlow shrewsbury all over really i,m in wrexham

I am based in Preston and did the few around the preston/leyland area, just 5 stores and only one of them had a pain in the arse manager. The rest were fine and priced OK till they decided to cut prices and knock off the cushy bits like sign cleaning and doing inside every month instead of every 2 weeks. ones i did ad in/out every wk only like 2 panes up the rest were done in/out every 3,mth also trolley bays were a pain jus depended on cleaning ,manager really did u lose the,m to capitol north west they ad ,most ov the tescos for carlisle v/cheap

Steve
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."