[Window Washers]

Let's put it this way, my system consists of

400ltr tank
pump box
2 DI vessels
Few sections of connecting hose
Hose reel.

It took 2 hours to install nearly 6 years ago & apart from when the first pump packed in has NEVER let me down.
Another thing- when I put my system together NO supplier I contacted had even thought of the twin DI system!!!! I created this idea for myself with "knowlage". Add the price of above items up, it doesn't come to much does it? + 2 hours of my time.

No brainer for me.

you do not have any hose connectors or clips at all, I am doing something wrong then.

I am guessing you do not have a frame on your tank either ? it more than 2 hours to design the tank frame  :

[macmac]

Connectors & clips are included in the 2 hours.

Ratchet straps & brackets are also included.

Feel ripped off yet?

[Window Washers]

Connectors & clips are included in the 2 hours.

Ratchet straps & brackets are also included.

Feel ripped off yet?

not at all  why would I :

[macmac]

Connectors & clips are included in the 2 hours.

Ratchet straps & brackets are also included.

Feel ripped off yet?

not at all  why would I :

Just winding you up dude

[Window Washers]

Connectors & clips are included in the 2 hours.

Ratchet straps & brackets are also included.

Feel ripped off yet?

not at all  why would I :

Just winding you up dude

Aint working today 

[matt]

Diy is not anyway cheaper I know this for a fact..

show me some sums, you cannot say DIY is not cheaper, you have to pay someone to fit it ( we know you like purefreedom ) who pays the labour for them ? ? ?  YOU

Have to say sory there matt I was editing the piost and it posted,

Was meant to say diy overall is not in anyway cheaper  if you are limited in time.

I did know you would post on here, but the facts from where I sit diy parts cost the same in most places it is the time aspect that cost the most money, and the cock ups that do and will happen when diy'ing a wfp set up. I know this because I have now done a few of these, I guess you have done the same can you honestly say you never had a problem. ?

when installing, you need to look at the bits you have from suppliers, then work out the bits that are needed, then you shouldnt really have much "wastage or stuff purchased that you do not need )

yes its time consuming, but that time spent means you know what it what and when you come to having a issue with something wrong, you will know how it is built and what is what, thus imhp time spent installing is also time spent learning about how your system works and will in-turn mean you will have a headstart when something goes wrong

yes its not for everyone, but you do save money, you do have the satisfaction that you built your system and know the bits it consists of

I'll second that, & that "build knowlage" is very valuable when things go wrong, so the time taken to diy is then saved when the poop hits the fan on your busyest week!!

I would not second that, I have a pre made system and 2 diy (with help from a frabricator) made systems

If you cannot work out how to unscrew a bolt or change a hose clip you should not be out in a van, or car in some people case.

you would be surprised on the number of people who have a system installed and know NOTHING about it, just look at some of the posts in here, i often get e.mailed and asked for my number to help people troubleshoot, last month i had a guy ask me if he could phone me up and have a chat about a problem with his system ( from ironics ) i told him to phone them, he didnt want to, because he thought they would try and sell him something else, he said he could trust my advice as i give honest advice without trying to sell things

I do understand what you and Matt are saying as I thought the same thing but having both I have learnt that diy is not always the cheapest option. can I ask do or have you or matt had a system installed by a company before ?

you drop off van go shopping and come back job done that is satisfiying messing about doing it you self is frustrating and you do not get the same feeling with finished product then you do with a comapny installed one. Not sure why , you just don't.
Maybe it was the hassles I had with tank frame being made, if used straps maybe it would have been different.

Ian

no i have not had a company install a system, as i can do it myself, why would iu want to pay dave the installer / technician 125 quid a day when i can do it

the thing is, i get satisfaction from making things, from building things, from designing things to be how i want them

Because sometimes it is quicker Matt and less hassle, I know you like diy or you woul;d not own a diy forum  I am aloud to say that on here aint I    you can type in diy matt wfp in google (the holy grail to find site, did you knwo that Matt ?

quicker -- 1 weekend

less hastle -- yes it is, but thats half the fun, the building, the designing, the sense of satifaction


Hmmmmmm so if you search for diy matt wfp in google i am ranked above Matt Damon ( he is ranked 3rd ), so i am more important than him according to google 

[matt]

i know the purefreedom van setup is well thought of, BUT you need to pay for that "installer / technician " his 125 quid a day, you need to pay andrew ( isnt that the owners name ) his profit, the unit they use costs , it all add's up

price the DIY option and the pro installed system, the DIY option is going to be cheaper everyday of the week, UNLESS they are buying in suck quantity of part the they are getting them very very cheap ( which inturn means they will sell the parts cheaper anyway )

[Window Washers]

Diy is not anyway cheaper I know this for a fact..

show me some sums, you cannot say DIY is not cheaper, you have to pay someone to fit it ( we know you like purefreedom ) who pays the labour for them ? ? ?  YOU

Have to say sory there matt I was editing the piost and it posted,

Was meant to say diy overall is not in anyway cheaper  if you are limited in time.

I did know you would post on here, but the facts from where I sit diy parts cost the same in most places it is the time aspect that cost the most money, and the cock ups that do and will happen when diy'ing a wfp set up. I know this because I have now done a few of these, I guess you have done the same can you honestly say you never had a problem. ?

when installing, you need to look at the bits you have from suppliers, then work out the bits that are needed, then you shouldnt really have much "wastage or stuff purchased that you do not need )

yes its time consuming, but that time spent means you know what it what and when you come to having a issue with something wrong, you will know how it is built and what is what, thus imhp time spent installing is also time spent learning about how your system works and will in-turn mean you will have a headstart when something goes wrong

yes its not for everyone, but you do save money, you do have the satisfaction that you built your system and know the bits it consists of

I'll second that, & that "build knowlage" is very valuable when things go wrong, so the time taken to diy is then saved when the poop hits the fan on your busyest week!!

I would not second that, I have a pre made system and 2 diy (with help from a frabricator) made systems

If you cannot work out how to unscrew a bolt or change a hose clip you should not be out in a van, or car in some people case.

you would be surprised on the number of people who have a system installed and know NOTHING about it, just look at some of the posts in here, i often get e.mailed and asked for my number to help people troubleshoot, last month i had a guy ask me if he could phone me up and have a chat about a problem with his system ( from ironics ) i told him to phone them, he didnt want to, because he thought they would try and sell him something else, he said he could trust my advice as i give honest advice without trying to sell things

I do understand what you and Matt are saying as I thought the same thing but having both I have learnt that diy is not always the cheapest option. can I ask do or have you or matt had a system installed by a company before ?

you drop off van go shopping and come back job done that is satisfiying messing about doing it you self is frustrating and you do not get the same feeling with finished product then you do with a comapny installed one. Not sure why , you just don't.
Maybe it was the hassles I had with tank frame being made, if used straps maybe it would have been different.

Ian

no i have not had a company install a system, as i can do it myself, why would iu want to pay dave the installer / technician 125 quid a day when i can do it

the thing is, i get satisfaction from making things, from building things, from designing things to be how i want them

Because sometimes it is quicker Matt and less hassle, I know you like diy or you woul;d not own a diy forum  I am aloud to say that on here aint I    you can type in diy matt wfp in google (the holy grail to find site, did you knwo that Matt ?

quicker -- 1 weekend

less hastle -- yes it is, but thats half the fun, the building, the designing, the sense of satifaction


Hmmmmmm so if you search for diy matt wfp in google i am ranked above Matt Damon ( he is ranked 3rd ), so i am more important than him according to google 

I have to give it to you MatT to window cleaners you are  and don't fall over because I gave you a complement i'm feeling unwell this morning

[matt]

Diy is not anyway cheaper I know this for a fact..

show me some sums, you cannot say DIY is not cheaper, you have to pay someone to fit it ( we know you like purefreedom ) who pays the labour for them ? ? ?  YOU

Have to say sory there matt I was editing the piost and it posted,

Was meant to say diy overall is not in anyway cheaper  if you are limited in time.

I did know you would post on here, but the facts from where I sit diy parts cost the same in most places it is the time aspect that cost the most money, and the cock ups that do and will happen when diy'ing a wfp set up. I know this because I have now done a few of these, I guess you have done the same can you honestly say you never had a problem. ?

when installing, you need to look at the bits you have from suppliers, then work out the bits that are needed, then you shouldnt really have much "wastage or stuff purchased that you do not need )

yes its time consuming, but that time spent means you know what it what and when you come to having a issue with something wrong, you will know how it is built and what is what, thus imhp time spent installing is also time spent learning about how your system works and will in-turn mean you will have a headstart when something goes wrong

yes its not for everyone, but you do save money, you do have the satisfaction that you built your system and know the bits it consists of

I'll second that, & that "build knowlage" is very valuable when things go wrong, so the time taken to diy is then saved when the poop hits the fan on your busyest week!!

I would not second that, I have a pre made system and 2 diy (with help from a frabricator) made systems

If you cannot work out how to unscrew a bolt or change a hose clip you should not be out in a van, or car in some people case.

you would be surprised on the number of people who have a system installed and know NOTHING about it, just look at some of the posts in here, i often get e.mailed and asked for my number to help people troubleshoot, last month i had a guy ask me if he could phone me up and have a chat about a problem with his system ( from ironics ) i told him to phone them, he didnt want to, because he thought they would try and sell him something else, he said he could trust my advice as i give honest advice without trying to sell things

I do understand what you and Matt are saying as I thought the same thing but having both I have learnt that diy is not always the cheapest option. can I ask do or have you or matt had a system installed by a company before ?

you drop off van go shopping and come back job done that is satisfiying messing about doing it you self is frustrating and you do not get the same feeling with finished product then you do with a comapny installed one. Not sure why , you just don't.
Maybe it was the hassles I had with tank frame being made, if used straps maybe it would have been different.

Ian

no i have not had a company install a system, as i can do it myself, why would iu want to pay dave the installer / technician 125 quid a day when i can do it

the thing is, i get satisfaction from making things, from building things, from designing things to be how i want them

Because sometimes it is quicker Matt and less hassle, I know you like diy or you woul;d not own a diy forum  I am aloud to say that on here aint I    you can type in diy matt wfp in google (the holy grail to find site, did you knwo that Matt ?

quicker -- 1 weekend

less hastle -- yes it is, but thats half the fun, the building, the designing, the sense of satifaction


Hmmmmmm so if you search for diy matt wfp in google i am ranked above Matt Damon ( he is ranked 3rd ), so i am more important than him according to google 

I have to give it to you MatT to window cleaners you are  and don't fall over because I gave you a complement i'm feeling unwell this morning

  people often tell me i am more handsome than him aswell