[Rogue Trader]

I have been going through old posts and i saw al old ftp post talking about how cheap you can get the whole shabang for,
What is the score with the pressure washer/clearing downpipes side of things , talk me through the cheapest way to get that side of it sorted ....... .......pretty please....

[Rogue Trader]

48ft power pole with electric power washer plugged into gennie?

Also for ftp , i see that you are in the market for a 110v sucker ..... will your chinese genny work with this?

[ftp]

I'm not sure of the prices these days but when I built mine it was far cheaper than the Omni version for several reasons.
The chinese Generator (loncin) was available elsewhere for about £370 whilst Omni were pushing the same one out for something like £650+.
I used Superlight poles which meant that I gained a Superb wfp at the same time as having a very light vac pole. In the last year Superlight sections have almost doubled in price. 
I made a camera system from Maplins and a few bit's (battery pack) that I had around the house for around £120 I think. Omni camera was around £800 ish but far superior but not needed for my kind of work.
I already had a trailer to bolt my Generator in.
I sourced and made a heavy duty extension lead.
Most of my system was built as Mr H's post that pops up on here from time to time so mine is pretty similar except I stuck with 38mm hose rather than 51mm and made my nozzles from wc waste pipe.
You would need to check on prices because things have changed since then - even cheaper vacs are available from Eastern Trading I believe and of course the lower powered ones from Polarvac (Numatic) can be used.
If you remember the basic design is simply a Vacuum cleaner and a pole, then to make one is soooooo easy its a joke.
Most Generators of that size - 5kva have the option of 240v or 110v
I don't pressure wash driveways etc so I use an electric powerwasher (Kranzle) and a second hand telescopic lance now and again for blasting down s bends and sometimes for gutters and brackets. I haven't had to clean any gutters above three storeys and to be honest wouldn't want to use a 48' Superlight at that height let alone heavier aluminium poles. 
Probably worth chatting to others on here to see how they do it, I'm no expert I just use what seems to work for me for my particular area. I don't really push the gutter cleaning too much - it's more for my existing window cleaning customers - it always felt very awkward telling them "no I don't clean gutters"
Don't forget Ladders come in really handy too 

[Rogue Trader]

thanks ftp , i am looking to get myself to a stage where i can really push this and be very confident of my eqipment and not use a ladder , i dont fancy (and nevwe have gone up a ladder over 2 storeys) Im gonna get the 48ft system and with the cost of all the extras im trying so save some cash on the jet washer side of things/power pole side of things.

by the way what sort of trailer do you have ftp?

[jeff1]

I would love to see someone operating the 48ft power pole  I use the lance and on high pressure that baby takes some handling so I would love to see a film or real life drama with a power pole.

[ftp]

My trailer is just an ordinary Erde 142 I think. I have bolted the generator to the drawbar using 'U' bolts. The vac lays down behind with the washer up front. Have you had any luck with the system for sale on this forum?

I had no intention of using ladders for anything when I started. Early on I touched a poorly fitted hopper and the whole 'S' bend came crashing down. A couple of times i've knocked an end cap off and some 'S' bends have been so chogged with roots from bonsai trees that I've had no choice but to climb up there (normal residential) and yank them out. It would be a good idea to check your insurance cover so that you are covered for the work you are on. Imagine knocking a section off at 48' on commercial work. 

[Window Washers]

I would love to see someone operating the 48ft power pole  I use the lance and on high pressure that baby takes some handling so I would love to see a film or real life drama with a power pole.

I have a power pole and honda 340gx pressure washers as like omni pole sell as I have there fall kit camera included,

I have to say that when I first tested this out I am glad I did it on my own house.

Power pole up only to standard house height was hard work, I then moved up higher and it was like fighting wild snake but up in the air, it was hard to try and get it to the gutter as it is way to powerfull even turned down it striped the paint off barge board and that was using the soap nozzle.


Power pole is far to heavy and the clamps a nightmare god only knows what it will be like when its cold as the clamps are a very poor design hard to get tight enough sometimes IMHO

The pressure washer is great for block paving, concrete etc add a whirl-away search ebay they are £100 cheaper for the same item.


I have to say the gutter cleaning pole supplied buy omni pole is quite easy to use and lite, I would get some extra clamps though if I am really honest I have had this up about 35ft ish so far as not needed higher as yet and is not anywhere near as heavy as the power pole and is quite easy to move about.

 I would say at this height it is simalar to using a 34 hybrid wfp at the same height.

Ian

[Rogue Trader]

I would love to see someone operating the 48ft power pole  I use the lance and on high pressure that baby takes some handling so I would love to see a film or real life drama with a power pole.

I have a power pole and honda 340gx pressure washers as like omni pole sell as I have there fall kit camera included,

I have to say that when I first tested this out I am glad I did it on my own house.

Power pole up only to standard house height was hard work, I then moved up higher and it was like fighting wild snake but up in the air, it was hard to try and get it to the gutter as it is way to powerfull even turned down it striped the paint off barge board and that was using the soap nozzle.


Power pole is far to heavy and the clamps a nightmare god only knows what it will be like when its cold as the clamps are a very poor design hard to get tight enough sometimes IMHO

The pressure washer is great for block paving, concrete etc add a whirl-away search ebay they are £100 cheaper for the same item.


I have to say the gutter cleaning pole supplied buy omni pole is quite easy to use and lite, I would get some extra clamps though if I am really honest I have had this up about 35ft ish so far as not needed higher as yet and is not anywhere near as heavy as the power pole and is quite easy to move about.

 I would say at this height it is simalar to using a 34 hybrid wfp at the same height.

Ian

Have you not needed to use the pressure washer to clear any u bends/down pipes at 35ft yet?

[ftp]

Several people have the full set up but hardly ever post about it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that after parting with all those thousands of pounds they have found it to be a monster to operate above three storeys and maybe are not impressed with it but are to embaressed too admit it?
Seem to be plenty of second hand systems popping up now and again.
If you are aiming at the residential stuff then you need to look at the competition in my opinion. There have been several arguments on here where owners of the stupidly expensive system think that because they have spent a fortune it entitles them to charge another small fortune to suck someones gutters out. I'm not so sure  
I have to compete with the Gypo's down the road on a battered ladder.
If you can crack the commercial market (one or two have) then it seems you can fill yer boots. The Guttervac won't get you that work - your marketting skills will have to do that. Depends on how much drive/desire you have for that kind of work imho.  

[Rogue Trader]

My trailer is just an ordinary Erde 142 I think. I have bolted the generator to the drawbar using 'U' bolts. The vac lays down behind with the washer up front. Have you had any luck with the system for sale on this forum?

I had no intention of using ladders for anything when I started. Early on I touched a poorly fitted hopper and the whole 'S' bend came crashing down. A couple of times i've knocked an end cap off and some 'S' bends have been so chogged with roots from bonsai trees that I've had no choice but to climb up there (normal residential) and yank them out. It would be a good idea to check your insurance cover so that you are covered for the work you are on. Imagine knocking a section off at 48' on commercial work.

a big resounding NO the guy hasnt got back to me!! A waste of time post it seems! : : :

[Window Washers]

I would love to see someone operating the 48ft power pole  I use the lance and on high pressure that baby takes some handling so I would love to see a film or real life drama with a power pole.

I have a power pole and honda 340gx pressure washers as like omni pole sell as I have there fall kit camera included,

I have to say that when I first tested this out I am glad I did it on my own house.

Power pole up only to standard house height was hard work, I then moved up higher and it was like fighting wild snake but up in the air, it was hard to try and get it to the gutter as it is way to powerfull even turned down it striped the paint off barge board and that was using the soap nozzle.


Power pole is far to heavy and the clamps a nightmare god only knows what it will be like when its cold as the clamps are a very poor design hard to get tight enough sometimes IMHO

The pressure washer is great for block paving, concrete etc add a whirl-away search ebay they are £100 cheaper for the same item.


I have to say the gutter cleaning pole supplied buy omni pole is quite easy to use and lite, I would get some extra clamps though if I am really honest I have had this up about 35ft ish so far as not needed higher as yet and is not anywhere near as heavy as the power pole and is quite easy to move about.

 I would say at this height it is simalar to using a 34 hybrid wfp at the same height.

Ian

Have you not needed to use the pressure washer to clear any u bends/down pipes at 35ft yet?

Not at 35ft no about 24ft I have

I am looking for another pressure washer as the one I have is way to over kill for gutters, facsia ect, I will use that for pressure washing drives, shop fronts etc

I am looking a Lightweight 110 volt one now, as other is heavy, overkill, and takes up to much space oh and weights a great deal getting it on and off van is pain in the bum.


Ian

ps if that reads wrong sorry this stupid glitch takes 10 times longer to try and post and have had enough of trying to edit it  

[Rogue Trader]

My trailer is just an ordinary Erde 142 I think.

do you not cover the genny to protect it from the weather?

[ftp]

Yes when it's raining I fold the cover in half and cover the Gennie so it's dry. The cover is bungied so it won't move. I have a hole cut in the trailer side so the exhaust gasses blow out and there is plenty of air circulating.

[Rogue Trader]

just had a look for Kranzle power washers and they are about £700

[ftp]

http://kranzlepressurewashers.co.uk/kranzle-7-120-technical-specifications.php


I just use one of these, quality bit of kit (very heavy) but will draw water from the van or tap, powers my drain jetter and fits in the trailer a treat. Runs off my generator or custies electric. The big petrol ones although ideal for patio cleaning etc gulp up water so fast that you need a tank to feed them 'cos a tap can't keep up. To be quite honest your average £50 jobbie would almost be enough although probably won't last long. Some guys use their big washers to blast the contents of the gutter out. Jeff1 seems to have mastered the technique.

[Rogue Trader]

http://kranzlepressurewashers.co.uk/kranzle-7-120-technical-specifications.php


I just use one of these, quality bit of kit (very heavy) but will draw water from the van or tap, powers my drain jetter and fits in the trailer a treat. Runs off my generator or custies electric. The big petrol ones although ideal for patio cleaning etc gulp up water so fast that you need a tank to feed them 'cos a tap can't keep up. To be quite honest your average £50 jobbie would almost be enough although probably won't last long. Some guys use their big washers to blast the contents of the gutter out. Jeff1 seems to have mastered the technique.

how are these connected to the power pole/lance?

[ftp]

High pressure hose with a screw fit each end, one end screws to the pressure washer 'tother to the telescopic lance. The hose is obviously very robust which equates to HEAVY add a cheaply built telecopic bendy lance and you'll understand they aren't very comfortable to work with. I've never used the omnipole version it should be better than the Northern Tools version 'cos it ain't cheap!