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Oneills onb

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Hi every one
« on: November 13, 2009, 07:31:14 pm »
Hi Guys

I have just taken over running of a cleaning company which use to belong to my dad until he passed away, we use to have a carpet cleaner do our work but he has now quit the trade. I have been doing carpet cleaning using Texatherm machine for office carpets but now having to take over from the other cleaner im looking at getting HWE maybe a ninja?? and what sort of trainning would i need to do ??? ???
Thanks  

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2009, 08:09:09 pm »
Ken Wainwright posted this on another forum which also applies to this question.

Looks like you got it right first time. Training is certainly the first place to start.

However, if you haven't cleaned carpets before, you will get better value from formal training if you have a little experience, even if it's only for one day, so I'd suggest approaching a friendly carpet cleaner and ask if you can tag along for a day or maybe two just to get an idea of things.

With the training, I'd suggest looking at the NCCA in Leicester www.ncca.co.uk or Prochem in Surrey www.prochem.co.uk or Alltec in  Hertfordshire www.alltec.co.uk  If you are offered IICRC training, my opinion is that it is perhaps a little too intense on the  theory side with not enough practical, so I would leave that course until you have some experience. NCCA and IICRC offer generic training whereas the others show preference to their own brands.

After training, you will be in a better position to decide whether you want to market to the residential or commercial market, or perhaps a little of each.  This could have an influence on your equipment choices.

Mark Lawrence

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2009, 09:15:14 pm »
Good response neil, why do so many people ask what is the best machine, and how do i clean a wool carpet etc - when its clear they have had no training and want the easy route ???

For all we know, these people could be competitors just down the road, and its making it easy for them :o

Mark

darrenlee

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2009, 10:57:52 pm »
hi
i read postes like this all the time, and p myself, we are not plumbers ect, but carpet cleaners.
the reply is training, get trained post your face, and we will talk.

Oneills onb

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 09:43:51 am »
I know i need to get training hence why im asking about it >:( >:( what is the best 1 around to go on? is the prochem trainging just all about their machines etc ???

Jim_77

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 11:24:25 am »
NCCA is supposed to be impartial.

All suppliers training will be biased towards their products.  Go on some different courses, they can't tell you wrong info, just separate fact from sales pitch ;)

And leave your cheque book at home.  Don't buy on the spot, always remember another 10 suppliers do the same thing so understand the market before you buy.  This forum is a great place for bouncing ideas of people ;)

Joe H

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2009, 02:29:11 pm »
hi
i read postes like this all the time, and p myself, we are not plumbers ect, but carpet cleaners.
the reply is training, get trained post your face, and we will talk.

Well c'mon Darren, if you advocating others to post their face...... you got to too.

dave123

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 02:54:54 pm »
Ashby's  in Sittingbourne is the nearest for you to do courses and you will see the ninjas at work . Good machines, in my opinion .

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 03:28:51 pm »
hi
i read postes like this all the time, and p myself, we are not plumbers ect, but carpet cleaners.
the reply is training, get trained post your face, and we will talk.

Well c'mon Darren, if you advocating others to post their face...... you got to too.

Maybe Darran looks like Andrew Lloyd Webber or something ;D ;D ;D

Oneills onb

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 06:33:55 pm »
How can you tell some 1 to put a pic up of your self when you havent got 1 up your self!!!!

Thanks for the info guys will look at the trainging options that are a round and go from there just wanted to see what people thought about the trainging that is around :) :)

derek west

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 07:14:57 pm »
trainging ???

have i been spelling it wrong all these years?

derek

Jim_77

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 09:10:02 pm »
Pot... kettle..... ;) :D

derek west

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 10:52:38 pm »
you can talk, you can't even spell kneel properly. ;D

or gym ;D

derek

Jim_77

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 11:08:11 pm »
And you can't spell Derrick ;D


Joe H

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2009, 06:21:08 pm »
 ;D ;D

richy27

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2009, 06:46:45 pm »
NCCA is supposed to be impartial.

All suppliers training will be biased towards their products.  Go on some different courses, they can't tell you wrong info, just separate fact from sales pitch ;)

And leave your cheque book at home.  Don't buy on the spot, always remember another 10 suppliers do the same thing so understand the market before you buy.  This forum is a great place for bouncing ideas of people ;)

Although ncca course for 90 % of the time is impartial i do get the feeling that mr pearce although i respect his experience and knowledge and the ncca as a whole is jumping further into bed with altec and mr saunders especially now i have seen mr pearce is a moderator on the altec forum.

I enjoyed my ncca course last year and as a kick off point it gave me a little more insight into what to do. but if i was not a little more switched on it would of been very easy to fall into the altec net . not saying their machines are not any good cause am not but the point i am trying to make is it would of been very easy to go straight to them without looking into all suppliers . and how glad i am that i did.


Gary Webber

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 07:29:41 pm »
The hardest part is that the NCCA courses and designed for theory NOT practical. I have had 2-3 people out with me over the last couple of months who have attended the course but have been "frightened" by what they may do to the carpet etc.

The time has come for a change in attitude where the courses are theory/practical balanced. Anyone new entering the business seems to have a "loss in confidence" from attending such events!

Gary

Re: Hi every one
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2009, 07:38:01 pm »
I wish people would search on all the general questions, then come and post on here with specific stuff they need clarification on.

Derek, he could be a copywriter for your websites.  ;D

MAX Carpets

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2009, 07:42:58 pm »
Welcome.....................As long as you dont ask questions youll be fine

Peter Sweeney

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Re: Hi every one
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2009, 07:52:55 pm »
The hardest part is that the NCCA courses and designed for theory NOT practical. I have had 2-3 people out with me over the last couple of months who have attended the course but have been "frightened" by what they may do to the carpet etc.

The time has come for a change in attitude where the courses are theory/practical balanced. Anyone new entering the business seems to have a "loss in confidence" from attending such events!

Gary

Could'nt agree more Gary. Would be good if you had a real live (well almost) environment that you could combine the theory with the practical (as quite a few have suggested)

Pete