[bobby p]

on 1st floor bays where are u lads placing the ladder ? and do u pitch it up twice or 3 times to do  the bay totally ?. im pitching mine below the sill ,  but its a real stretch to reach the top openers .  i pitch my ladder twice to do the whole bay

[daz1977]

by a pole dont stretch, or place ladders in a better place

[jonnyald]

HI BOBBY,  i  put my ladder up 2 times to do a complete bay . I use a  WAGTAIL   which just gives the edge on reaching .about6 inch extra  .   place the ladder below the sill  always and  if the top openers have that fancy leaded glass i dont squeegee them,just clean with damp scrim. JON

[cornelius jemmerso]

 i guess you must be TALL blokes  to reach like that ?  else youv got long arms 

[Smudger]

Last time i stretched for a window top opener i hit the ground very hard 

went out and brought WFP!!! 


Darran

[bobplum]

do you use a ladder stand off?
i have two ladders one with and one without and find the stand off one is now being used all the time
much safer and less stretching
bob

[Mike 108]

Bobby

Pitch the ladder as many times as you need to and still feel safe and secure.

I can remember pitching the ladder once on each side of the bay and TWICE on the front for some properties.

As soon as you can afford to 'get rid of' any difficult properties, pass them on to someone else and make your own working day easier.

Mike

[martinsadie]

pitch the ladder as many times as you have to so you are safe,sometimes i do them in 2 some 3 and odd ones 4,i try to put the ladder on the sill but if its sliding i go below,if you are streaching and the top opener is open get hold of the ledge with one hand, on some bays to do the side ones i put the ladder against the wall and clean from the side

[bobby p]

cheers for the advice lads /  i might look for a very small standoff .   you know what its like ,when youve loads of these bay window semis to do,anything,any tip that can speed u up (safely ) is welcome . 

[C.C.S.]

what about  A frame ladder?

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

its a good idea topitch your ladder at the side of the window rather then on the frame or cill you can get a better angle to clean them at the sides but try get yourself a wfpole mate will change things for ya !!

[TonyD]

I use a stand off on tall windows, then the top of the ladder is a good rung past the cill, I can comfortably do the top whilst still having the ladder to grab at waist height.

[Gleaming windows]

I dont know why more dont use stand-offs.

Bobby if you buy a stand-off, fit it to the ladder, and then on 1st floor windows have the stand-off ON the sill and you dont feel that your work day has been totally empowered then Im Dame Edna Everage 

[weetot]

I dont know why more dont use stand-offs.

Bobby if you buy a stand-off, fit it to the ladder, and then on 1st floor windows have the stand-off ON the sill and you dont feel that your work day has been totally empowered then Im Dame Edna Everage 

 

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

When I use to be fulltime trad, I used a double pointer which I rested above the window.



Matt

[martinsadie]

I dont know why more dont use stand-offs.

only use stand off on jobs i have to,in all my work that is 6 windows,its ok carring the ladder with stand off attached by it self but when carrying ladder with bucket in other hand from house to house it isnt safe ,i also find the bit that loops over the rungs is uncomfy on your knees and legs

[Gleaming windows]

Stan a stand-off rested on the cill is a safety device all in itself. ANOTHER good reason to use one, when I was full-time trad I had mine fitted 24/7. IF the ladder slips (and they do whoever you are) the stand-off will stop it if its on the cill.

A stand-off ALSO creates more room for you to work in compared to not using one. They immediately raise you up and move you a foot or so away from the glass, no more cramped work conditions, easy reaching, no more face planted against the glass.

Try doing a gutter without one then fit one and compare.

They have numerous advantages. NO disadvantages.

[Gleaming windows]

A stand-off offers greater stability compared to a ladder without one. I dont seem to remember having to carry a bucket round the back of houses, load your mop up and set off with that, leave the bucket round the front. If necessary do the patio doors first round the back with your dripping mop; but leave the bucket round the front....kepp it simple mate, no need to cart the kitchen sink everywhere you go. Simplicity and safety 

[martinsadie]

A stand-off offers greater stability compared to a ladder without one. I dont seem to remember having to carry a bucket round the back of houses, load your mop up and set off with that, leave the bucket round the front. If necessary do the patio doors first round the back with your dripping mop; but leave the bucket round the front....kepp it simple mate, no need to cart the kitchen sink everywhere you go. Simplicity and safety 

still to carry the bucket to the next house
if the ladder slips i can see your point that the sill should stop it,but as the ladder is going backwards as well i wouldnt be 100% the stand off wouldnt drag back as well

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

stan mate looks like you live life on the dangerous side bet your custies are in fear of you damaging there prized posessions do you still av any custies left mate