[jonboywalton75]

Hi,
I'm new to this forum but have been trad w/c for 18 years.
Why i've waited so long to upgrade to WFP i don't know, but now is the time.
I'm a sole trader doing mostly 4 bed detached Redrow houses.
I have a Mondeo estate.
I was thinking of this system:-

http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_20_24&products_id=61

I live in a very soft water area and my mate who cleans locally to me says that the tap water is coming out at 40 ppm tds. he is using a di filter only and seems to be doing well.
I fancied the above trolley because of the filters attached to the trolley.
I wondered if anyone has used the trolley and also how much water would be required  for a days work of 25-30 of the above house type?
Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
Cheers everyone and hello all,
Jon

[Londoner]

25-30 4 bed houses a day? Not with a trolley system IMO. Is that what you are doing trad at the moment?

[jonboywalton75]

I'm doing about 20 a day at the moment.

[jonboywalton75]

I've tried using a trolley system on some of my larger houses already and its seems fine.
I'm actually earning more per hour with a ladder than a lad working locally on the same houses with a decent van system.
How much water would i need?
What is the reason that a trolley system is no good on this type of work?

[Small but perfectley formed]

When first change over you will be slower ,but you will gradually speed up whensyou learn your round again its a different ball game from trad to wfp and needs a lot more thought about were to put trolley so you can reach most windows without  moving it alot.Also i would advise you to buy a trigger for your pole these save water and time.

[Small but perfectley formed]

if only cleaning upstairs with wfp 8-15 litres per house depending if you clean frames as well. I have van system and trolleys a brodex 50 lt and omnipole tsr 35 and these are both good on domestic especially if compacti have triggers on poles and this make a massive differance on water usage as very little if any is wasted. you would need 250 to 300l per day.

[jonboywalton75]

Cheers for the quick replies so far. It must be raining
When I get used to the system and am doing a good job, should I put prices up, to pay for my extra costs?
My prices are about 20% lower than most local w/cleaners

[mlscontractcleaner]

No you shouldn't put your prices up.

As far as your customers are concerned they pay you to clean their windows. They couldn't care les whether you invest £10k on a state of the art wfp system or £30 on a bucket and a couple of squeegies. With a little practice you'll be quicker than you are now so you'll be earning more anyway.

I really do feel that charging extra just so you can buy a wfp system is seriously wrong

[EZclean]

agree.
would you expect your customers to pay you less cos your now cleaning in half the time?
unless they are underpriced already of course put them up.
wfp will take a day at least off your working week. its upto you what you do with your time, personally going after some more work is the way to go.

[jonboywalton75]

Really helpfull replies lads.
Has anyone had any experience with this system

http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_20_24&products_id=61

or any other DI fitted trolley system?

[dave f]

stick to trad less assel took alot of work off disgruntled wfp custys not happy with wfp all from differant areas i was gonna go down wfp route but changed my mind

[steve24earl]

hi mate
   dont post on here very often , but i have a look from time to time ..... been cleening windows for
15 years , water fed for 2 .... with your tds there trolly will be good to start you off , i went to there
unit on friday and they were realy helpful .... my advice would be give them a ring , i,ll def be going back there
             steve

[jonboywalton75]

Only been on this forum for 3 weeks and found it really helpful, thanks to all the posters.
Particularly Andy Atkinson (thanks mate).
After some more research I think i may go for the Omnitrolley 50 ltr DI.
just wondered though, would a shureflo Backpack with Di filters at home be good enough for my domestic work (4 bed detached Redrow houses and a rural round where I can move up to 6 times in a day).
Or maybe I might need both.
Any comments appreciated.