[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

At the recent `Fed `trade show at Blackpool,the Brodex company
Had their super -light modular pole system up outside and on display
Etc.The rep said it was 45 feet and with a vikan brush on and judging
By it`s weight to use I myself was very impressed.As with all modular
Poles(  fishing poles ) sections tend sometimes to stick and `jam`especially
At heights above 30 feet I find.Has any members got this pole for their
Everyday use? If so,how do you find it? Opinions and comments appreciated.


Lewis Doubtfire Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )

[steve a]

I haven't actually used the brodex one, but did have a feel of it at the show, felt up to the job.

I do however use Gardiners SL2 on a regular basis and have found that the sections can/do stick occasionally but this is easily prevented by spraying with the teflon spray which is provided and actually works.

The pole is light (used to 45ft) easy to handle, (unless in high winds when it becomes very unstable), can be awkward at times when in between heights of different sections, (is either too long or too short, a half length section could sort this out) and when shortening the pole whilst using where do you store the section you remove?( the pole cannot be left extended while you stow the section removed in the van, unless it is lowered to the ground) and if just left around could be stood on or even blow away in a light breeze as they are that light.

Excellent pole tho' for high work and is a godsend over the old 18lb 45ft carbon telescopic I used to use.
 Hope this makes sense.

[Moderator David@stives]

Lewis

Forget the sprays etc, there will always be times when you forget or cant be bothered.

You just want to use the pole, I feel the manufacturers have an obligation to stop this happening and i dont mean a can of spray.

I have had to destroy a couple of sections to get them undone in the past.

The pole WILL get stuck together at times and will drive you insane, it can turn a 20 min job into a full day affair unlocking poles.

Unless you have a cast Iron grip and can cope with them locking up buy one, dont expect it to be trouble free though.

[Alex Gardiner]

Lewis

Forget the sprays etc, there will always be times when you forget or cant be bothered.

You just want to use the pole, I feel the manufacturers have an obligation to stop this happening and i dont mean a can of spray.

I have had to destroy a couple of sections to get them undone in the past.

The pole WILL get stuck together at times and will drive you insane, it can turn a 20 min job into a full day affair unlocking poles.

Unless you have a cast Iron grip and can cope with them locking up buy one, dont expect it to be trouble free though.

I have to say David in defence of this type of pole that you are probably a company's nightmare user  - Absolutely no spray, no maintenance and employees man-handling! and yet you still do not use anything but the Super-Lites on serious work.......can't be that bad 
Well done Debbie on the World Record.

[Moderator David@stives]

Alex

I mean it all in a nice way, yes i still use them, but i think we are quite early on in the development and there is a long way to go with these poles.

If i maintained my poles per spec, i would spend time maintaining than working.

These poles still earn me money, probably more than other poles at that height, but they arent without there problems.

My post looking back seemed unbalanced i hope this balances it out.


Lewis is 61 years old and couldnt pull the skin of a rice pudding ( well not quite Lewis LOL) thata why i answered in the manner i did.

[Niall McAllister]

you mean you don't maintain your equipment on a daily/weekly basis, setting aside a regular time to do this. shame on you

[Moderator David@stives]

with 3 vans and 12 poles, what do you think ?

Where do i get time ?

[Sean Dyer]

get your lads to do it , your paying them enough 

[Alex Gardiner]

I cannot speak for the Brodex Carbon-Light, but my 2 Super-Lite® poles get a maximum of 10 mins 'care' a month. I keep them clean, occasionally have to re-glue on a protecta-ring and re-coat the joints....that's it. I haven't had a sticking section in years now.

[Niall McAllister]

get your lads to do it , your paying them enough 

Or, are you?

[MoemGorod]

Hi, mates.

Back to the theme, if anybody has comments for the new Brodex Super-Light Modular Pole?

Thanx in advance.

regards,

Vadim

[Sean Dyer]

I haven't actually used the brodex one, but did have a feel of it at the show, felt up to the job.

I do however use Gardiners SL2 on a regular basis and have found that the sections can/do stick occasionally but this is easily prevented by spraying with the teflon spray which is provided and actually works.

The pole is light (used to 45ft) easy to handle, (unless in high winds when it becomes very unstable), can be awkward at times when in between heights of different sections, (is either too long or too short, a half length section could sort this out) and when shortening the pole whilst using where do you store the section you remove?( the pole cannot be left extended while you stow the section removed in the van, unless it is lowered to the ground) and if just left around could be stood on or even blow away in a light breeze as they are that light.

Excellent pole tho' for high work and is a godsend over the old 18lb 45ft carbon telescopic I used to use.
 Hope this makes sense.

looking at moemgorods site - could this be a solution to th eproblem of modular poles when working???

http://www.moemgorod.com/index.php?productID=272

[GWCS]

I haven't actually used the brodex one, but did have a feel of it at the show, felt up to the job.

I do however use Gardiners SL2 on a regular basis and have found that the sections can/do stick occasionally but this is easily prevented by spraying with the teflon spray which is provided and actually works.

The pole is light (used to 45ft) easy to handle, (unless in high winds when it becomes very unstable), can be awkward at times when in between heights of different sections, (is either too long or too short, a half length section could sort this out) and when shortening the pole whilst using where do you store the section you remove?( the pole cannot be left extended while you stow the section removed in the van, unless it is lowered to the ground) and if just left around could be stood on or even blow away in a light breeze as they are that light.

Excellent pole tho' for high work and is a godsend over the old 18lb 45ft carbon telescopic I used to use.
 Hope this makes sense.

looking at moemgorods site - could this be a solution to th eproblem of modular poles when working???

http://www.moemgorod.com/index.php?productID=272

yes its called a golf bag

[Jeff Brimble]

Or you could add a battery and pump  to make it go 12mph uphill 
The old prostyle eleccy trolley (right) and the new £60 Hillbilly one (left)

Close up

[williamx]

I use a little bit of vaseline on the end of the poles, I find that this works better than the spray.

If you do get the pole stuck, I have found that if you twist both poles in opposite directions, they soon come unstuck, also do not jam the poles together, instead let the poles own weight do the job.

I also use a golf trolley to hold the poles, the only difference to the ones in the pictures is I have 8 tubes which are cut down drain pipes which the poles go into.

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Or you could add a battery and pump  to make it go 12mph uphill 
The old prostyle eleccy trolley (right) and the new £60 Hillbilly one (left)

Close up

Where do you get the hillbillie for £60 from?
the cheapest I could find was £150.
I wont one for my golf not for work lol



Matt

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

First things first.Dave,I`m not 61 older in fact but not much !
There`s always a good tune played on an old fiddle!
What about candle wax for not jamming?
That’s what my local fishing place recommend.I tried it,but
Perhaps like spray,there`s got to be `room `inbetween the sections
For it really to work,which I guess defeats the purpose.When I slid
My sections on the wax just `rode up `.First reply on here was good
I thought,although don`t know what Jeff Brimbles on about.
It`s only the bottom sections where the weight is that jam I find.
I agree with Dave Morris though,it is up to the manufactures.the
Ball so to speak is in their court.


Lewis  Doubtfire Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )

[stevieg]

I too have tried all sorts of methods(wax(worse)vaseline and various sprays !all to no avail.
In the end the best way is one off this forum!  A few turns of electrical tape at a certain point (enough to support the pole)not too much that the pole still gets stuck(trial and error)
It would be nice if ,in the making process a natural stop was built in? Is there any reason not for this to be?

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i dont bother with all the hassle of cleaning the modulars with sprays/wax etc.....as someone said its a time consuming exercise....so all i do is give each section a quick wipe with my glove (while they are on my hands of course)  as i put them back in the bag....and mine have NEVER stuck together in the 3 years i have had them.

but i guess i just got the best of the poles at the time.

so there.

[Alex Gardiner]

I too have tried all sorts of methods(wax(worse)vaseline and various sprays !all to no avail.
In the end the best way is one off this forum!  A few turns of electrical tape at a certain point (enough to support the pole)not too much that the pole still gets stuck(trial and error)
It would be nice if ,in the making process a natural stop was built in? Is there any reason not for this to be?

The main reason that this is not built in to any push fit modular pole is that as the joint wore with age the joint stop would start to prevent the joint from seating properly which would lead to sudden joint failure.

The Super-Lites are designed to twist apart (clockwise) so when properly treated (PTFE and SPJ as supplied) even when stuck will twist apart if twisted in the right direction.  Most Super-Lite users who end up with a section really stuck have usually tried to twist it the wrong way first thereby tightening the joint.  One of the most important things with any of these types of poles is not to ram the sections together when assembling.  They just need pushing together until tight.

One of my Super-Lite's is completely untreated - no spray, no SPJ, nothing - and has never jammed on me and all that requires is a simple twist to release.  I put this down to careful assembly and careful use (not ramming it into the top of the window recess during use).