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ftp

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Commercial vans and newer property.
« on: October 10, 2009, 07:32:09 pm »
Just had an offer accepted on a newish house and have been told by someone that in the deeds there is a clause stating that no commercial vehicles are allowed to operate from any houses on the estate.
Anyone else had this?
Would you just ignore it?

Dean Taberner

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 07:35:14 pm »
I think it must be aiming at the guy who owns 15 icecream vans,

Ignore it mate.
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GWCS

Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 07:38:21 pm »
This is quite common on built up housing estates.

I think just 1 van on the drive will be ok, it when you have them blocking others drives etc like 2 or 3 becomes a problem.

So long as you are being respectful to your neighbours i cant see anyone reporting it.

Still if they do, buy a harley and rev it up and drive off everyday (very early) to your lock up (which you will have to have for your van) i think u'll get even more complaints then..LOL

eclipse

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 07:40:01 pm »
there is a couple of new estates around here that have the same clause in the deeds all be it the clause is only valid for 3 or so years ive even heard the same said about caravans
 i would ask about it to be honest i would not just ignore it

Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 07:44:52 pm »
All new estates, and the majority biult in the last fifteen years have this covenant.There is also probably a clause about parking caravans on the front, and if it's open plan building a brick wall.

You will not buy any newish house without this clause anywhere.

The orignal developer is responsible for enforcing it. If you are really that worried.
A. Do not tell anyone you have a van.
B. Keep the registered address elsewhere.

For this to become actionable a neighbour would have to complain to the developer. No one can do anything about vans parked on the road.If one or more of your neighbours has a van you are probably okay.Many people use vans for work, and there is no longer the stigma of living next door to one as there once was. For a van to be a van it has to be transit size, not a tiddler like the one you've got.

JSMC

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 07:48:41 pm »
tell them to GTF. hate this nonsense. I hope they know that majority of their equipment inside the house was brought by truck and white van.

some people really need to ge tthier heads out their bum

JSMC

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 07:50:25 pm »
also in these deeds they normally say no satellite dishes have to be put up remind them of that if they get arsey

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 08:52:01 pm »
if the offer is accepted then look at the deeds, your entitled to look at them mate.





Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

matt

Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2009, 09:35:37 pm »
as has been said before, that covenant is very popular

it has been enforced around here, 1 of my customers were told they had to move a caravan, it wasnt that big either

who are the builders dave ? ? ? e.mail me if you like, i might know if they enforce or not

ftp

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2009, 11:03:05 pm »
It's not brand new but fairly recent. My accountant happened to be doing my books and knew of a client of hers who was unable to rent a property there due to having a large signwritten double glazing van.
The offer has been accepted. I suppose I could remove the signwriting if needed. (got far too much work anyway).

Window Washers

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2009, 11:05:29 pm »
It's not brand new but fairly recent. My accountant happened to be doing my books and knew of a client of hers who was unable to rent a property there due to having a large signwritten double glazing van.
The offer has been accepted. I suppose I could remove the signwriting if needed. (got far too much work anyway).
cross the bridge when it comes I would say tbh.

And Ewan, I have done this myself hence why I am saying it  :P and ftp does not have more than one van nor at the mo does he employ, I would ask fror it to be taken out if I was buying it, but again tbh one van aint a problem more than 1 is
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

ftp

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2009, 11:17:08 pm »
It's a general rule of the estate I would imagine. My accountant seemed to think it applied to parking the van. I can understand how running a business from home could be against the regulations but what if you worked for say British Telecom?
Think I'll just have to try it.

macmac

Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2009, 11:27:29 pm »
Easier for you to say windowwasher, it’s not your home or your money at risk, or to a lesser extent a financial disruption as well as a nuisance into his window cleaning business.

It could possibly turn out to be a big financial cost whichever way it goes. It needs to be clarified and dealt with correctly.



I agree with that, there's nothing to lose by just digging a little deeper & it's best done now. ;)

Window Washers

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2009, 11:32:26 pm »
I would look at the area ftp if you think it’s the kind of place you will get other similar tradesmen living there you may be OK, even if you are breaking the rules they may not be enforced, but its a risk that you don’t have to take. Just ask a few more questions to the right people and even the residents.  ;)
ask the people that hes buying it from  ::) and ask for it to be taken out, if it cant then 2 option pull out (they will not want that nor will your wife) 2 get little place as you earn to much anyway
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

vacman

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2009, 11:35:39 pm »
Can't believe you're been told to ignore this issue or to wait and see what happens....sorry but anyone would think you're buying a £10 pair of shoes which may or may not be suiteable...but hey! that's a £10 pair of shoes we're talking about there, so who cares! This is your new house LOL  ;D

Add which, 'newish' estates ALWAYS attract a certain sort of person and you know the type i mean....keeps up with the Jones's, did slightly better to get on a new estate, doesn't want antything happening 'in my back yard'. You won't have to wait long (in my experience) for someone to start making trouble IF you really aren't allowed to park your van.

But then ultimatly, isn't this what you're paying your solicitor lots of money for....? He/she'll be the one who will get this ironed out for you once and for all.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2009, 11:37:20 pm »
FTP have a look in the local paper for a small lock up garage to store your work gear. probably be able to rent a garage for £50-£80 per month.





Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

macmac

Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 11:41:00 pm »
FTP have a look in the local paper for a small lock up garage to store your work gear. probably be able to rent a garage for £50-£80 per month.







Matt

Yeah, dead convenient that matey! ;D

vacman

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2009, 11:41:46 pm »
I would look at the area ftp if you think it’s the kind of place you will get other similar tradesmen living there you may be OK, even if you are breaking the rules they may not be enforced, but its a risk that you don’t have to take. Just ask a few more questions to the right people and even the residents.  ;)
ask the people that hes buying it from  ::) and ask for it to be taken out, if it cant then 2 option pull out (they will not want that nor will your wife) 2 get little place as you earn to much anyway



Covenants may not only be enforced by the builder windowwasher, and authorities don’t usually make special exceptions to breaking the law for individuals.

I don’t think you have a clue to what you are talking about.  ::)


 ;D

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2009, 11:43:13 pm »
FTP have a look in the local paper for a small lock up garage to store your work gear. probably be able to rent a garage for £50-£80 per month.







Matt

Yeah, dead convenient that matey! ;D




I've been looking at a small unit in Essex and it comes with a small office and thats only £400 per month.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

matt

Re: Commercial vans and newer property.
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2009, 12:05:58 am »
I would look at the area ftp if you think it’s the kind of place you will get other similar tradesmen living there you may be OK, even if you are breaking the rules they may not be enforced, but its a risk that you don’t have to take. Just ask a few more questions to the right people and even the residents.  ;)
ask the people that hes buying it from  ::) and ask for it to be taken out, if it cant then 2 option pull out (they will not want that nor will your wife) 2 get little place as you earn to much anyway



Covenants may not only be enforced by the builder windowwasher, and authorities don’t usually make special exceptions to breaking the law for individuals.

I don’t think you have a clue to what you are talking about.  ::)


now i hate to agree with ewan

but these Covenants will not be removed by the seller, thay cannot be removed

it will only take a local bizzy-body to report it, you know the type, retired bank manager who doesnt want his road / street / close looking like a builders yard

tread carefully