[suffolkclean]

Hi - could anyone give me some advice. I've been cleaning my black leather suite for about 5 yrs now. Got some prochem leather cleaner & seperate conditioner. Im wiping the arms with the cleaner slightly damp cloth as instructions, drying it off with a dry cloth. Same process with the conditioner. Its drying up dull & feels slightly sticky. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong - should I just get a damp cloth on it?

Barbara

[derek west]

is prochem leather cleaner a foam or a cream? how often are you applying the protector?
derek

ps.. did you get my return email?

[Mike Osbourne]

The lacquer top coat may be worn and you are trying to clean the pigment which is soft and absorbant. If that's the case you won't ever clean it and needs repainting/laquering.

[suffolkclean]

Hi derek - yes I did get your mail - thanks very much. Prochem is cream.

[derek west]

theres ya problem, use a foam cleaner, acts like a bra, lifts and seperates.
creams just get rubbed in leaving what youve got.
derek

[JandS]

You apply it with a damp cloth the wipe it off with a seperate one.
Why use both, Prochem leather cleaner has a conditioner in it.
Bit like wash and wax for cars.

John

[Joe H]

I tried the Prochem leather cleaner a few years back - sat on the shelf now - anyone want it?

Barbara - get some Strong Cleaner from LTT - its a foam. You may need to buy the foamer bottle as well.
They have trade prices tucked away on their website - you need a password to get them though - no big deal.

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

Yeh me Joe my lad finds it great on his bike leathers

Tony

[LTT Leathercare]

First thing to do is to check the type of leather you have.  Sticky areas after this length of time may be an indication of Bicast leather.  If this is the case and it hasn't been protected on a regular basis then body oils could have broken down the coating.

If it is not Bicast but a standard protected leather then there would appear to be a problem with the finish or a build up of grease.

Foam cleaning would be a good start and then see what you are left with.

Using cream cleaners is a real problem and 'conditioners' will only add to it.

This doesn't sound as though it is a 'cleaning' problem and may not be resolved this way.  Joe will tell you all about this!!!!!!!


If we can be of further help please do not hesitate to contact us

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I've had this with bicast and I believe that the 'invisible' finish has gone/worn out, Andy from LTT advised me on how to correct this but as Judy says you need to find out what leather it is (mixed=bicast)

Shaun

[Joe H]

Yeh me Joe my lad finds it great on his bike leathers
Tony

Email me you address Tony, Ill get it over to you.

[Joe H]

First thing to do is to check the type of leather you have.  Sticky areas after this length of time may be an indication of Bicast leather.  If this is the case and it hasn't been protected on a regular basis then body oils could have broken down the coating.

If it is not Bicast but a standard protected leather then there would appear to be a problem with the finish or a build up of grease.

Foam cleaning would be a good start and then see what you are left with.

Using cream cleaners is a real problem and 'conditioners' will only add to it.

This doesn't sound as though it is a 'cleaning' problem and may not be resolved this way.  Joe will tell you all about this!!!!!!!

If we can be of further help please do not hesitate to contact us

I was at the NCCA Technical Roadshow on Tuesday at Shrewsbury with about another 25 carpet cleaners from as far away as Fort William and London.
Andy and Judy from LTT were there doing a presentation, and we covered sticky surfaces on Bicast.
Strange how things come about - 2 days ago on a training session, then it gets mentioned.

For £25 (£35 for non NCCA members and buffet included) that was a very good day.

Going off topic (apologies) but Host were there, and they have  a new Reliance CRB (counter rotating brush) system launched at a special price of £999 inc vat and a set of brushes of your choice.

[Roger Koh]

Hi - could anyone give me some advice. I've been cleaning my black leather suite for about 5 yrs now. Got some prochem leather cleaner & seperate conditioner. Im wiping the arms with the cleaner slightly damp cloth as instructions, drying it off with a dry cloth. Same process with the conditioner. Its drying up dull & feels slightly sticky. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong - should I just get a damp cloth on it?

Barbara

Would you like to solve this sticky problem?

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®

[suffolkclean]

I have no idea what kind of leather it is  : It wasn't a cheap suite cost £2,200 5 yrs ago. I've never put a protection on it, was only ever told about cleaning & conditioning it.

[robert meldrum]

Probably NOT bicast then Barbara..............

Try to get a photo up and the response will be better and more accurate

[Roger Koh]

Yes!

As Robert say, with pictures it will be more educational.

And certainly we can help, may even comes with free products to test it out!

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®

[robert meldrum]

An offer you can't refuse Barbara............well you could, but a visit to Roger's site will give you an idea of his expertise in leather !

[suffolkclean]

Unfortunately I can't show you pictures as probs with my camera at the moment. On having a good look the main problem is with the arms, which on feeling its as if the grain is almost worn away like the leather is almost flat in texture compared to the rest of the chair/sofa. Hope this helps 

[Roger Koh]

Do This Testing:

1. Apply distilled (pure) water to this problem area and agitate with a horsehair brush.
2. Extract with a dry absorbent towel of all suspended residue until towel shows clean.
3. Check with your fingers if it is still tacky or sticky while the problem area is still wet.

Let us know your findings, please!


Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®

[Roger Koh]

Problem solved?


Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®