[Small but perfectley formed]

Because the the one that dont like are not a very nice persons

[Fieldsy]

We have explained the system to our customers................and asked for feedback to see their opinion of it. Not one as yet has complained. Unfortunately too many people get tarred with the same brush. If they have a crap trad cleaner, does that mean they will never use another trad cleaner??. Because little is known about wfp by a majority of custys, a bad experience means the pole system must be bad...........nothing to do with the operator, but we explain infact it is the operator for various reasons. We had two custsy blatantly tell us that they didn't want "the pole" because the last cleaner left it all streaky!!. Those two are both now happy with the results we produce.........and have recommended us to two other custys    Do a good job, don't cut corners and you get the work for providing a good service.  

[geefree]

not long ago, alady phoned me,.. i called and in the end... quoted her..., she said that sounds fine,

she said the other window cleaner came with two lads, and she overheard them saying," lets see how fast we can do this,


she said it took them ten minutes..(traditional)......she then asked why the frames were not being cleaned or the sills, they said it would be double....!

i told her i use wfp, and will do the frames, but i was still hesitant as i really thought she had called because she did not have a window cleaner !.... cos im nice and dont tread on toes often.

Anyway she said she had already sacked them before i gave my price... which was £4 more than them.....

it took me twenty minutes first clean, she was over the moon...

she simply did not see it had taken me only half the time of the 3 trad lads, and i had done the frames too.

I like to earn my hourly rate plus look after my customers,

[simon knight]

Point out that it's a lot safer with a pole and the result are better.

Yes it's safer... but no the results are not  better (why do so many customers eschew wfp...are all customers dimwits?)

But in a few years time there will be less and less trad cleaners out there

I think you'll find the reverse is true. As global mean temperature rises water will become a more valued commodity...and what modern-green-thinking customer wants to see 10s of gallons of valuable water squandered on her windows?

Please don't get me wrong as I'm all for wfp as it's safer and earns more money, but I refuse to be told that " the results are better" when loads of customers say "it ain't " and from an environmental viewpoint trad wins hands-down.

[Rob.Hall]

Well I can vouch for wfp.

The only reason a street keeps its  trad w/cleaner by me is out of sentiment.

They all moan about him. Smears and streaks etc.

I know because I have cleaned several of these houses facias and gutters etc.

You dont have to hear there moans you can see the state of the windows first hand.

There again I have seen some wfp work which was not good ether.

To much about speed and not enough on finishing off properly.

[R W C]

Point out that it's a lot safer with a pole and the result are better.

Yes it's safer... but no the results are not  better (why do so many customers eschew wfp...are all customers dimwits?)

But in a few years time there will be less and less trad cleaners out there

I think you'll find the reverse is true. As global mean temperature rises water will become a more valued commodity...and what modern-green-thinking customer wants to see 10s of gallons of valuable water squandered on her windows?

Please don't get me wrong as I'm all for wfp as it's safer and earns more money, but I refuse to be told that " the results are better" when loads of customers say "it ain't " and from an environmental viewpoint trad wins hands-down.

done right windows gleam, i got custys who would never go back

[geefree]

Well I can vouch for wfp.

The only reason a street keeps its  trad w/cleaner by me is out of sentiment.

They all moan about him. Smears and streaks etc.

I know because I have cleaned several of these houses facias and gutters etc.

You dont have to hear there moans you can see the state of the windows first hand.

There again I have seen some wfp work which was not good ether.

To much about speed and not enough on finishing off properly.

I agree ,

they do complain all the time, about trad cleaners... dirty sills, not cleaning frames, dirty cloths...and more importantly, the bucket of dirty slew some carry around,

that definitely will put any customer off.

i have a good wfp round, dont think i have lost one because of it, i have had the odd..." can you just look at that window, as last time there was a row of spots".... and once i agree to work out and explain how this happened , and that i will keep a close eye on it , and do it a couple of times...they are very happy.

There are too many people who have the attitude, if you dont like it tough....


but i like that.... because that means more work for me. 

[geefree]

But in a few years time there will be less and less trad cleaners out there

I think you'll find the reverse is true. As global mean temperature rises water will become a more valued commodity  unquote

Global warming will also cause monsoon type rains, floods and unusual temperatures.


so water , i imagine...would still be in abundance.

[Murdie window cleaning]

But in a few years time there will be less and less trad cleaners out there

I think you'll find the reverse is true. As global mean temperature rises water will become a more valued commodity  unquote

Global warming will also cause monsoon type rains, floods and unusual temperatures.


so water , i imagine...would still be in abundance.

it sure is in Scotland 

[michael papworth]

But in a few years time there will be less and less trad cleaners out there

I think you'll find the reverse is true. As global mean temperature rises water will become a more valued commodity  unquote

Global warming will also cause monsoon type rains, floods and unusual temperatures.


so water , i imagine...would still be in abundance.

And some of us use harvested rainwater, which is about as green as you can get. I don't even filter or DI mine and the results are always spotless!

[martinsadie]

i will tell you why it is unpopular, becouse the trad guy that has a big round is defending it, he knows we are coming into his area at some point, dont think for one minute he is not bad mouthing wfp to all his custy, called brain washing, hes bringing it way down, saying it scratches, and  they only use water, not mentioning pure water, and every thing else he can think of, would you not do this, by the time you get there, you basicly dont have a leg to stand on, especialy with oaps,

ill have to remember to use those comments with my customers 

[simon knight]

But in a few years time there will be less and less trad cleaners out there

I think you'll find the reverse is true. As global mean temperature rises water will become a more valued commodity  unquote

Global warming will also cause monsoon type rains, floods and unusual temperatures.


so water , i imagine...would still be in abundance.

Wish you were right. However monsoon type rain merely causes flash-floods and landslides. This sudden deluge of water swells the rivers which flow to the sea (becoming saline) and has little impact on the water table (for which gentle and sustained rainfall is required)  and vital to our daily domestic needs.

Just what I've read mate!

[R W C]

wfp is here to stay

[geefree]

Ah well,

lets just hope they can invent huge pumps, which pump the floodwater into the nearest reserviors. before it sets off to sea.

They will have to do something.

[Niall McAllister]

i get a lot of new customers bad mouthing wfp, i normally say its down to the user not the system as i am 100 percent traditional but am going wfp v soon,

however some people are just a bit funny dont like the water everywhere etc

what i dont understand is why some wfp users will pole a bungelow or the whole house when they could do the the downstairs trad and keep the customer, imo its lazyness, thinkin they can splash water everywhere at 100mph then dash off no wonder customers are cancelling

I think there is a place for both styles, but if you spend the money on a  wfp system why would you not use it.  to use it only on some properties, is like saying well it's ok for upstairs, but not so great on lower level. wfp either works or it doesn't.
 that said not so good on the inside

[tomy jackson]

dont for get stan chages moor for the frams so il have to tell em its inclued in mine ,i kow a windy of 29 years and he wont do the tops the mess he makes of windows is unbelivebull yet hear he is 29 years on and still makeing a liveing and neaver sarts befor 11 ,thats not a pop at you stan ,i persunly neaver diss any one cos thayv a liveng to make

[Londoner]

Forget the moaners, There are plenty out there who like the way I clean their windows. I have always said that WFP is not perfect but I just clean windows for money. Its a business and I can make more dosh with my WFP.

You are never going to please everyone so don't try. Stay focused.

[Neil Williams]

so water , i imagine...would still be in abundance.

There is no more or no less water on the planet than there has ever been since.....well ever
It's either in the sky, in the sea, in the rivers, lakes, underground or in ice form.
It might change over millions of years but the same amount of water is here somewhere in some form.
I hate these eco warriors with their water is running out war cry....NO IT'S NOT

[Neil Williams]

im finding alot of people not liking wfp especially the old people they dont like it one bit,

Well I must be doing something wrong because we have a complex of 35 OAP flats who think it's great.

[Londoner]

im finding alot of people not liking wfp especially the old people they dont like it one bit,

Well I must be doing something wrong because we have a complex of 35 OAP flats who think it's great.

Yes, I do a load of OAP flats and they think the same.