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dave401uk

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2005, 06:24:21 pm »
Here we all go again,
this is getting so boring,
Everyone sitting on the side with no intention of committing to the product, hey thats fine,it is after all your choice!

But if you don't want to be part of the network, that is also fine, however to then start "swiping" at a product that you know very little about, is just not clever.

to those of you who keep asking the same questions,with the only intention of stirring controversy,
please just call nick, as you know he will answer all your questions(and prob has before)

This product works well for me,it has changed the lives of some of my clients.

Dave
Its never a pass of the wand,just a master stroke.

stevegunn

Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2005, 06:24:36 pm »
Shaun 10ltrs of Allerg-stop is £58.62 and is used undiluted non network members pay £72+vat i think.Look at my site under products for non network member prices
http://www.freewebs.com/allerg-stop/products.htm

Doug
The minimum spend was £2500 its now £800
You can choose to pay up front or as you use it.
If the area is already taken the network member will be contacted to see if its ok to let you in.

Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2005, 06:35:47 pm »
Doug

To clarify the spend was reduced because the original of £2500 was frightening people, a fair number of people have already passed the target figure, and we wish to continue expanding the network as enquirires are coming in form areas  which are not currently covered, I also wanted to give and incentive to those who are promoting the Allergstop system, this way every one benefits.

As to area exclusivity our aim is to make each network member exclusive although with an area such as London for instance it would be impossible for one member to cover it. So if 2 people apply in the same area the first one accepted has the option to remain tatally exclusive, this may depend on there work load.

Hope this helps

Best regards Nick

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2005, 07:30:09 pm »
Respectfully

I'm doing my workings out

If standard solutions costs £50 plus vat for 10 litre to be diluted at an average of 10 - 1 you get 110 litres of product for £50 plus vat

AllergStop you get 10 litres of made product for £72 plus vat.

Is this correct?

Shaun

PS Doug and other moderators I have no gain other than knowledge for this question.

John Kelly

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2005, 07:31:19 pm »
David M
Am I right in thinking that you pre-spray with Allerg-stop then rinse with Formula 90.
If that is correct its no wonder you are achieveing excellent results.
Formula 90 is a heavy duty carpet detergent which is also suitable for alkaline resistant materials. Due to its addition of Biosolv,(citrus solvent) it cuts through grease and grime and there is absolutely no need to use any kind of pre-treatment when using it. Also I beleive it would be stripping the Allerg Stop straight off negating its affect.

Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2005, 07:49:30 pm »
Shaun


Yes if your are not in the Network but bare in mind you are doing a lot more than carpet cleaning therefore the added cost creates  a more valuable job so therefore additional profit,

John your are correct, you would not use and additional detergent product with Allergstop, there would be no need to anyway.

Allerstop is pre-sprayed allowed a 10 minute dwell time during which it is agitated then rinsed with plain water.

Best regards Nick

conallon

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2005, 09:17:03 pm »
Are cc not allowed to ask questions about allergy stop ???,i thought thats what forums were for ( to discuss )  :)
one thing becoming obvious is a lot of allerystop members are becoming very defensive,now what does that tell me ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2005, 09:40:07 pm »
What's up with the board?

It can get a bit snotty sometimes!

I asked a question and got an answer, that's it!!

Ok some AS members defended their product a bit zealously but wouldn't you?

Steve Gunn put on a post that the minimum requirement for the year had become more favourable of course you are going to get a reaction.

For me I think AS will not enhance my business enough, unless there is spin off work ie a UK chain of health clubs or hotels decide to go with AS and there is one in my area so I get the clean which obviously gives me something extra back.

I don't think I would sell much more cleaning other than the passed on work, okay the added benefits are there but if I introduce them to my clientelle I would have to more than increase last years price to account for the added price of the chemical.

Could be good for new clients as an added edge and also bring in young Mums and allergy sufferers but you have to do some legwork and marketing to these people, I have clients always calling me anyway.

Undecided....

Shaun

neil 47

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2005, 10:07:12 pm »
This might sound daft but the majority of customers I go to just want clean carpets.
sometimes I use MS sometimes hydramaster or UM,OR CHEMSPEC FORMULA90 etc THEY DONT CARE as long as its clean

Neil   ;)
IICRC

mark_roberts

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2005, 10:07:38 pm »
Ive started using, and using the selling points, of Promite pre-cleaner.  Its a good cleaner and smells nice too and kills dust mites.  Of course it may not have the additional benefits of Allerg-stop but its not costing me any extra but I have added value for the customer.

I could see me buying allerg-stop for mattress cleaning but its a bit too pricey for carpets and esp. upholstery IMO at the minute.  

Mark

mark_roberts

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2005, 10:11:58 pm »
Shaun

While I was typing the above I seen a reply by you asking if the 1.5litres for upholstery was concentrate or diluted BUT its disappeared???

My first post on this topic was refering to a diluted mix of normal micro-splitter ie. 150ml = 1.5litre or pre-spray which is about the average for a 3 piece suite.  However using allerg-stop this would equate to 1.5 litres of product equalling many more £££ as you buy allerg-stop ready to use.

Mark

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2005, 10:21:45 pm »
I can't get to grips that my chemical costs would go up 10 fold!

I think the product is brilliant but I'm not convinced.

If Nick employs Don Atkinson well I'd be unconvicely convinced (work that one out)

Shaun

Doug Holloway

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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2005, 11:07:05 pm »
Big ten four

Breaker Breaker !

Shaun

PS I think the wifes coil is playing up again

Michel Roberts

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2005, 12:20:30 am »
Shaun

Try going to the left a bit

You might get radio 4!

Regards Michel

Ian Gourlay

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2005, 09:42:34 am »
While I found the information interesting I hope we are not going to get into name calling again.

Just so I am in the know is there an Allergy Stop Forum in addition to the Forumn that was subject to a Take Over bid.

Glad to see spend limit has come down.

Gavin Reardon

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2005, 12:47:21 pm »
Hi All

Myself I was not worryied at the spend limit what so ever, and I think I have spent over it all ready  ;D

So much so today I have taken on a new member of staff just to go out and promote Allerg-STOP.  He will be ariving at Solution's new home very soon for his training. I know Allerg-STOP works and makes money! and thats from someone who is doing just that  :D  ;)

As most on this forum will know I used to come on here a lot to try and help other's people as much as I could,  and to learn myself, but silly people with silly views put me and others off  :( 

Regards Gavin
Gavin Reardon IICRC / NCCA

www.ace-cleaning.co.uk

garyj

Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2005, 01:50:23 pm »
Gavin, if you have so much work wouldn't you have been wiser to take on someone to do the carpet cleaning rather than a salesman to promote a product which you claim keeps you busy all the time anyway.

You also say that silly people have put you off this forum, but looking through your stats you were very active until just 6 weeks ago, who has cheesed you off since then? 

Gavin Reardon

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2005, 11:27:10 am »
Hi Gary

I have just logged on for 5 mins before I go to rugby so im rushed for time But I will post my reasons just as soon as i have time  ;)

Regards Gavin
Gavin Reardon IICRC / NCCA

www.ace-cleaning.co.uk

Chris Bailey

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Re: The cost of allerg-stop?
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2005, 08:32:27 pm »
Have we all not noticed that in the last six months or so some of the........ more knowledgeable amongst us no longer post on the forum!!

I wonder why?
Carpet Care

Leicester