[grant home clean]

has anyone tried or got one of these machines airflex turbo 3 x vac 600psi pump going to be buying new machine in next couple of months and this looks a good machine or what about the alltec triple read good reports on here about that machine just after as much info as possable thanks grant..

[Joe H]

 .... have you looked at the Scorpion?

I know mentioning it is provocative on here with some..... but what the heck..... its weekend and we not had a good ding dong for ages.

Seriously though........... it is a good machine, vacs connected in parallel (the best way IMO), 500psi, fairly light (that is important when you lugging it upstairs in flats with no lift - check the weight of others).
OK it has no onboard heat, but neither do a lot of machines on the market, and those 3 vacs that do have a onboard heater dont as soon as you turn the vac motors on.
In line heater works very effective.

and it has a feature that one carpet cleaner wish he had on his newish 3 vac machine now that he wants to mount it in his van. Comes in very useful at other times as well.

[grant home clean]

have to have a look at the scorpion, as i said i am waying up all options at moment but havent heard any reports on the airflex turbo on here but looks good..

[Joe H]

Have you looked at the Texatherm system - looks interesting.
That does have some reviews on here.

[Darren O]

The thing that puts me of the Scorpion apart from no heat and looks cheap and nasty is it dosent have a preasure gauge any machine with a 500psi pump should have one as standard you shouldnt have to guess what psi your working at especially when cleaning upholstery.

[Joe H]

.... have you looked at the Scorpion?

I know mentioning it is provocative on here with some..... but what the heck..... its weekend and we not had a good ding dong for ages.

Here we go!

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Was at Alltec last week and sales of the Advance have been going well.

Airflex's suppliers, Cleansmart have a good reputation but there don't seem to have been too many sales yet judging by the comments on here.

The Ninja, powefrful 2 vac. generally gets good reports although service from Ashby's appears to let it down.

Personally I would never buy a machine without heat, I believe it is fundamental to achieving top cleaning results.

I know there is an argument that you can agitate for ages and achieve a good result even with cold water, but heat is essential in a lot of stain removal.

When I was doing my stain removal demos at the CCDO I tried using a Scorpion to remove a softened paint stain and it just didn't !!

Cheers

Doug

[clinton]

Grant

I would try and have a go with some of the machines first unless you have a set up in mind.

There is now a choice in the 3 vac set up market.

I have had a go with some other set up,s before i bought the alltec 3 vac.

[Darren O]

Has anybody in the UK got the new version of the Ninja looks a top machine.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I had a scorpion for a short time and I must admit that the build quality does let it down, I did try the Alltec and I thought it was a better machine although the Airflex does look good, Ashby's sell a ninja with 3 vacs and a V2 heater which Roger has got but they do run at £4k, I think Clinton had a quote earlier this year for one. Wonder how many plugs you need?

Shaun

[Joe H]

By "build quality" Shaun, what do you mean?
Did bits fall of it?  or are you talking about its looks? or what?
Having had one now for nearly 2 years I can honestly say I have not suffered anything I can call build quality problem - and mine was 2nd hand when I got it.

[grant home clean]

the more i look at them im swaying towards the alltec but think i will go and take a look at the airflex turbo and see if i can arrange to see one in action...

[Darren O]

Do you think the wheels on the Scorpion might buckle with the weight of a preasure gauge.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Falling apart

Shaun

[richy27]

the more i look at them im swaying towards the alltec but think i will go and take a look at the airflex turbo and see if i can arrange to see one in action...

good idea to try both set ups not too shure on altecs customer service but i do know cleansmarts back up and customer service is very good.

one thing how is the altec for getting in and out a van if you have to take it out looks front heavy and awkward. airflex looks quite a practical machine

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Don't forget to ask Clinton and Joe and Roger they all have different 3 x motored machines. IMO I think the Alltec based on quality build and what Alltec machines I have had in the past.

Shaun

[clinton]

Shaun

I agree with you on the alltec build and quality on there machines and have found the after sales service first class.

Grant

Like shaun i have used alltecs  over the years as well as other makes and always found  the quality better on the alltec..

[Andrew Briscoe]

I have a Alltech and a Recoil,  as back up to my recent purchase of a truck mount.
Both are similar age, the Recoil is prob a bit older.
Alltech has had numerous vac motors and 2 pumps, heater has always given me problems.
Loading unloading of Recoil is much easier.
Recoil has had 1 set of brushes in one of the vacs.
I find if either have a bump, like down a step, or coming off van, Recoil seems more flexible, whereas Alltech bits drop off or break, handle has come off, rubber trim around bottom etc, and have to have a good supply of fuses for the Alltech.

As for repairs 4 bolts on waste tank and your at the vacs, easy to work on the Recoil

Not one for buying because of looks, works well with cold/tap water and inline heater, ie constant heat when i want it, no waiting for heat ups.

I forgot to mention the Alltech lives on garage loft, Recoil is on van with truckmount.

These are just my findings, not biased in anyway by suppliers etc

Andrew

[Andrew Briscoe]

Should have added, not used the Airflex, only seen it at last years CCDO, am sure it is a good machine, just hasnt been out long enough for a fair comment by anyone, time will tell.

Andrew

[Joe H]

Hi Guys

When I was doing my stain removal demos at the CCDO I tried using a Scorpion to remove a softened paint stain and it just didn't !!

Cheers
Doug

So in your opinion Doug, why, when using the Scorpion you couldnt get a result.??