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Aquakleen Restoration Services

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Help with whirlaway
« on: August 27, 2009, 08:30:53 pm »
As a newbie to pressure washing I was wondering if any of you kind gentlemen can give me a few tips.

Firstly I need to know where to grease it? I have enclosed a pic of where I think with an arrow pointing to the area. Do I twist the nut and grease there and retighten? Or is it somewhere else?

Secondly I was out on my third job today and I wasn't getting the performance I think i should even with the pressure turned all the way up it was having little effect on some areas of block paving not even touching the 'flower' shaped algae you often see. I used the lance on it and was fine but the whirlaway was quite poor. I have enclosed a second pic. In that pic do I have the jets close enough to the ground or do they look alright?

Thanks for your help in advance

John

trevor perry

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 08:42:30 pm »
to grease the whirlaway there is a grease nipple that sticks up on the metal part it is on the second layer down on your picture, you will need to buy a grease gun to insert the grease but they are not expensive probably only £10 to £15, as for your pressure problems this could be a number of things firstly is your machine powerful enough to run the whirlaway i.e what litre per minute is your machine and what p.s. i is it, if the machine is powerful enough then you need to ensure that the right size jets are fitted to corespond to the power of machine being used, finally if all this is correct then turn the whirlaway upside down hold the spinning bar in place with a weight then press the trigger and check there are no leaks from anywhere and all water is coming from both jets as one could be blocked or a leak is causing pressure loss.
 
hope that helps
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

drive surgeon

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 08:53:23 pm »
if water is coming out of the hole by the spray bar then the o ring on the inlet tao has blown.  it happened to me so many times. :-*

dandandan

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 10:16:15 pm »
Get a turbo nozzle and bin the FSC,they are crap,good luck,Dan

Andy Foster

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 11:44:43 pm »
If all of the above have been checked then the only thing left to do is grease it and it should do the trick.

Use a turbo nozzle if you want to spend more time cleaning up than cleaning!

I only ever used a turbo nozzle on tarmac or sports surfaces, other than that they cause more work than they do!

drive surgeon

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 10:25:28 am »
dandandan are you still selling yout fsc?

dandandan

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 12:57:22 pm »
yes,it`s gathering dust in the shed,if i get a tar-mac job i might get it out,i wouldn`t use the turbo nozzle on tar-mac though,it will rip it up if your not careful.

drive surgeon

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 01:36:06 pm »
dandandan, email me at   fod393@aol.com i have cash waiting :)

Aquakleen Restoration Services

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 06:09:05 pm »
Another dumb question...

As Im still finding my feet with the pressure washing equipment...

Does having the throttle on full effect the amount or pressure of water coming out? I say this as I have never had it on full whack and it has always done a good job until the last job. Would putting it up full throttle produce more power and a better end result?

I know the answer is probably yes but I thought Id check here first. Sorry!!

John.

Andy Foster

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 06:33:18 pm »
The answer is indeed yes John

Aquakleen Restoration Services

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 07:25:34 pm »
Cheers Andy, looks like we've got to the bottom of the problem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qlrBEHtJWw

Andy Foster

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 08:01:35 pm »
Haven't seen that clip for years... brilliant!

drivewasher

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2009, 09:17:03 pm »
DS Iv'e got a whurlaway I'm selling 18" the better one than your stainless steel bean can.
Make me an offer it's all new exept for the rotor bar and the trigger gun. They were robbed for a couple of repairs last year I replaced em with good used ones. All the bearing head and cover is new.
Make me a sensible offer!
I'm always in the poo, it's just the depth that varies

stalwart

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2009, 10:26:17 pm »
pmsl
check your email steve
Been there,seen it,done it,just cant remember when

Aquakleen Restoration Services

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2009, 08:49:28 am »
I took the nipple off and there was grease clearly visable in there but put another squirt in for good measure. Not sure I will need to do it after EVERY job though???

trevor perry

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2009, 01:04:58 pm »
I took the nipple off and there was grease clearly visable in there but put another squirt in for good measure. Not sure I will need to do it after EVERY job though???
you dont need to take the nipple off the grease gun fits onto the nipple and puts the grease in under pressure, i usually grease mine about once a week and thats enough.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

drive surgeon

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 05:44:03 pm »
steve greases his after each job  ???

drive surgeon

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2009, 04:16:19 pm »
mine seems to work better since greasing regular.

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2009, 05:18:27 pm »
Andy Would increasing the throttle lower the life of the pressure washer?
And would you need to "brake in" a relatively new washer?
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Andy Foster

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Re: Help with whirlaway
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2009, 06:08:46 pm »
Most pumps are designed to be run at full tilt all day and so shouldn't be affected by this.
Indeed, running a pump at less than full revs wouldn give you less than the pressure or flow you are expecting.
However, as your pump is a little underpowered to be running 2900 psi, it would probably not be good to run it for 8 hours a day.

Regarding 'breaking in' a machine, as long as you service it according to the manufacturers recommendations, you should not have a problem (mainly oil changes).

Andy