[John Walker]

Might be my imagination but there apears to be a sudden surge in newbies, trad and wfp - another sign that redundancies are still biting perhaps - or can we blame the Dragon's Den 

[tony talbot]

thing is you hear from newbies starting up, but you don't hear of many people leaving the trade, so we only have one side of the coin.

[eclipse]

just changing my oil on my vito tonight on my drive and i saw 5 cars with shiny new ladders on top of them in space of an hour

i wonder how many i will see when winter sets in lol 

i aint got a problem with them as long as they have the proper insurance and pay there taxes and they dont intentionaly undercut

[John Walker]

just changing my oil on my vito tonight on my drive and i saw 5 cars with shiny new ladders on top of them in space of an hour

i wonder how many i will see when winter sets in lol 

i aint got a problem with them as long as they have the proper insurance and pay there taxes and they dont intentionaly undercut

They certainly do seem to drop off when the cold starts to bite. - No problem for me - I actually like working in bad weather - well to a point anyway!

[stephen s]

yep they seem to come out of the woodwork in the summer months,  and when those cold dark days/nights arrive a lot of them vanish

[tony talbot]

just changing my oil on my vito tonight on my drive and i saw 5 cars with shiny new ladders on top of them in space of an hour

i wonder how many i will see when winter sets in lol 

i aint got a problem with them as long as they have the proper insurance and pay there taxes and they dont intentionaly undercut

They certainly do seem to drop off when the cold starts to bite. - No problem for me - I actually like working in bad weather - well to a point anyway!

but in doing so they do us all a favor by getting more custys used to having there windows cleaned when they stop the custys come looking for us  

[d s windowcleaning]

the only time i would worry about a newbie is if my work wasnt up to a high standard .if im happy with the quality of my work then im sure my customers will be so bring on the newbie 

[TonyD]

All true.  I'm a newbie but I'll still be here through the cold dark winter.........because I used to be a car detailer and used to working outdoors cleaning.......when the water starts to freeze as you're washing a car...........even at 1pm in the afternoon..........and it's dark when you go out and dark when you get in.........and you ache all over after a long day now that you're over 30........and the rest..............
Works the same with valeting you see, they all think it's an easy game when the sun's shining.

I used to do expensive detailing, 10 years at it, but due to the economy it's now ended.  Here's what I used to do -

Click -Ferrari F430 detail
Click -Saab 3 day swirl repair
Click -New GT-R

[eclipse]

yes you have a point there dave and i am the same thinking as you
however a round i have been doing for nearly 2 years with 100% satisfaction and a 24 hour guarantee i lost 2 custies there last week to a newbie who in some of my other custies words "had a sponge and a shammy" bottom line was the custies i lost were saving £1.50 per week with this new guy
the exuse they gave me was they cannot afford me anymore
its a mobile home site and as they were only little i charged £5 per fortnight  this new guy charging £4 a month!!!!

lesson i have learned is you CANNOT rely on any customers they will stab you in the back to save a few quid

[John Walker]

All true.  I'm a newbie but I'll still be here through the cold dark winter.........because I used to be a car detailer and used to working outdoors cleaning.......when the water starts to freeze as you're washing a car...........even at 1pm in the afternoon..........and it's dark when you go out and dark when you get in.........and you ache all over after a long day now that you're over 30........and the rest..............
Works the same with valeting you see, they all think it's an easy game when the sun's shining.

I used to do expensive detailing, 10 years at it, but due to the economy it's now ended.  Here's what I used to do -

Click -Ferrari F430 detail
Click -Saab 3 day swirl repair
Click -New GT-R

Hi Sparrowteeth - you're not the type of newbie that causes problems - you should do well.  Good luck

[Gleaming windows]

I wonder if we're paranoid about ladders on vehicles, we just notice them more becasue WE aare the ones that are worried, its probably just Ol' Joe doing his mate a favour and taking him a set of ladders round to paint his frames; most of the time anyway.

I dont assume for every set of shiny ladders that its ANOTHER new window cleaner.

[martinsadie]

I wonder if we're paranoid about ladders on vehicles, we just notice them more becasue WE aare the ones that are worried, its probably just Ol' Joe doing his mate a favour and taking him a set of ladders round to paint his frames; most of the time anyway.

I dont assume for every set of shiny ladders that its ANOTHER new window cleaner.

very true,painters ,electricians,tv men,plumbers,roofers,all use ladders

[eclipse]

but the ones who nearly break there neck as they go past trying to look at whats in back of your van or at what you are doing are most prob newbies lol

[Gleaming windows]

Theyre called pikies and are round and about whenever.

[John Walker]

Theyre called pikies and are round and about whenever.

oooooooh!   

[tomy jackson]

its the ponters that give the game a way

[Gleaming windows]

Theyre called pikies and are round and about whenever.

oooooooh!   

 

[Rob.Hall]

I dont worry to much about new shinners.

What gets me are the ones that dont pay tax or insure themselves.
They can keep there prices low and dont care.

Postmen are a clasic or ones that just do it part time.

I wonder how many on this site dont pay taxes.......Maybe the ones who dont say in there profile where they are from....maybe...(await the incoming!)

[GWCS]

Theyre called pikies and are round and about whenever.

oooooooh!   

[Gleaming windows]

Maybe the ones who dont say in there profile where they are from....maybe...(await the incoming!)

What a load of old tripe   

Your profile doesnt say where you come from anyway.