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Murdie window cleaning

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2009, 09:06:30 pm »
Matt
With all said and done, do you not believe £195.00 for a factory built trolley system that has been fully tested in my workshops is good value for money?

what else would be needed to use this system ? Or does this include every thing to get you started ?

I was looking at the pure freedom trolley system today, but £820 seems steep  ???


Ps I'm a newbie looking to take the plunge and start a w/c round

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2009, 09:33:35 pm »
You would need a pole and the pure water to fill the trolly up with.

Murdie window cleaning

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2009, 09:39:45 pm »
You would need a pole and the pure water to fill the trolly up with.

still a masive differance between the 2 price wise, is the PF system superior or just hugely over priced ???

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2009, 10:00:06 pm »
I think the p/f is a very versatile as the pump box can be used as a van mount and its easy to swop barrells but it was out of my price bracket so the tsr was the one for me, have a look on page three of this thread and you can see pic's of mine which now doubles as a van mount for less than £300 all in its still not finished yet but i can clean with it.

matt

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2009, 10:13:13 pm »
Matt
With all said and done, do you not believe £195.00 for a factory built trolley system that has been fully tested in my workshops is good value for money?


sorry i missed this

good value for money for some i guess ( those who cannot or do not want to build a system )

its a great start and much better value for money than something like this



 :P

your price on the TSR is very similar to some of the backpack prices, thus make its good value for money

i remember when i first start the DIY quest ( and was laughed at by many, and told not to bother, now look at the companies who have sprouted up making a sack truck design cart with a built in barrel / space for barrel ) you said you could make a " sack truck with pump and sell it very cheaply, but it wouldnt include your customer service " i said go on then, it might fill a void in the market, looks like this cheapo Chinese trolley does just that

Glyn H

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2009, 10:30:53 pm »
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its a great start and much better value for money than something like this

The cost to produce the original Omnitrolley is vast.
Just to have the molds made for the tank was many thousands .
The frame / chassis /axel is all hand made of 1/4" steel and then galvinised, many versions were tested by us again costing thousands in prototypes which we tested to virtual destruction.
They trolley houses a 33amp hour deep cycle batter and a 60 or 100 psi Flojet pump in a sculptured recess spade fuses and a very neat charging socket is incorporated as is a return to tank bi-pass which eliminates the need for an electronic flow controler every componant part has been tried and tested over years of production and each trolley is tested several times before being supplied to customers.
As you will know Matt we have been selling these for 10 years and ones of that age pop up for sale on ebay and are often traded between window cleaners so if a long life trolley with years of proof of withstanding the rigours of all types of window cleaning is needed - then the Classic Omnitrolley is the choice.

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2009, 10:56:11 pm »
Would that 33ah battery fit the tsr?
Would you be able to supply the plug that goe's into the tsr? or know of somewhere that does? as i want to be able to chager on the move just for peace of mind

matt

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2009, 10:58:46 pm »
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its a great start and much better value for money than something like this

The cost to produce the original Omnitrolley is vast.
Just to have the molds made for the tank was many thousands .
The frame / chassis /axel is all hand made of 1/4" steel and then galvinised, many versions were tested by us again costing thousands in prototypes which we tested to virtual destruction.
They trolley houses a 33amp hour deep cycle batter and a 60 or 100 psi Flojet pump in a sculptured recess spade fuses and a very neat charging socket is incorporated as is a return to tank bi-pass which eliminates the need for an electronic flow controler every componant part has been tried and tested over years of production and each trolley is tested several times before being supplied to customers.
As you will know Matt we have been selling these for 10 years and ones of that age pop up for sale on ebay and are often traded between window cleaners so if a long life trolley with years of proof of withstanding the rigours of all types of window cleaning is needed - then the Classic Omnitrolley is the choice.

i guess you didnt spot the  :P after the pic

i was only having a joke

Glyn H

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2009, 11:02:55 pm »
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Would that 33ah battery fit the tsr?

No sorry their is not the space to hold a battery that size.
The TSR 80 psi pump only draws just over 2 amps an hour and the battery it comes with is a 17 amp hour so it will supply a minimum of 8 hours of actual work between recharges.
Most shurflo and Flojet pumps need approx 8 amps an hour to operate them that is why a larger battery is needed, even so it is rare for the classic to not last a full days work

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2009, 11:13:05 pm »
Its never gone flat but i'am to lazy to bring it inside to charge it and the misses wont let me run a cable out the front window as she thinks she's posh all of a sudden.

matt

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2009, 11:17:23 pm »
Glyn

as it only used 2 amps an hour, you could fit a small solar panel and it will allways be charged ( i am sure you could fit it in the workshop for a small add-on price )

any1 else

as the pump only uses 2 amps an hour, fit a 2 amp solar panel ( they are small enough ) and you will never run out of power, it will even charge if you leave it in the van with a window after you finish work

green is the future folks

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2009, 11:20:05 pm »
Good idea i could mount one on roof of the van how much are they?

matt

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2009, 11:24:48 pm »

Glyn H

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2009, 10:22:22 am »
Thanks  Matt
I have tried some panels out a few years ago but at that time they didnt seem to be very efficient. I am sure the latest models are more reliable, got me thinking about other applications.
Glyn

matt

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2009, 11:23:26 am »
Thanks  Matt
I have tried some panels out a few years ago but at that time they didnt seem to be very efficient. I am sure the latest models are more reliable, got me thinking about other applications.
Glyn

solar panels have moved on a fair bit in the last few years, even the cheapo type from china are turning out good power ( ive spent a bit of time researching them )


garyfindlay

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2009, 08:21:29 pm »
is this a good starter trolley, and how does it compare to others you discussed?

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2009, 09:16:17 pm »
Yes its a very good starter system and by far cheapest off the shelf option.

elite mike

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2009, 09:24:57 pm »
Yes its a very good starter system and by far cheapest off the shelf option.

just prepare your self for problems if you get a bad one ::) :'(

garyfindlay

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Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2009, 09:46:48 pm »
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=79535.0

It would help if I showed the trolley I was talking about......doh.

elite mike

Re: TSR 35 WFP Trolley
« Reply #79 on: August 20, 2009, 09:50:24 pm »
to much money