[clinton]

Derek

How about a web site than at least for starters

Its going to have to start somewhere isnt it.

Maybe as you said with the power of the net it will be different and make a base for it to get of the ground.

[carpetworx]

Already done here in oz. ICAN.

[Joe H]

OK - I will ask the question

what does ICAN stand for?

[Neil Williams]

OK - I will ask the question
what does ICAN stand for?

I'll take a guess that 'independant' and 'carpet' are two of the letters.

[derek west]

the a and the n has to be amber nectre

derek

[Paul Heath]

At the end of the day the current carpet cleaning "Associations" seem to do bugger all in getting the word out to Mr & Mrs Public.
If this was to get of the ground it would be run by Carpet cleaners for Carpet cleaners.....what could be better than pulling together all our resources and getting the word out to potential customers?
What about a cooperative? and i don't mean the supermarket....could this be run as a coop, setting standards and arranging training etc?

[Neil Williams]

what does ICAN stand for?

It's just occured to me that it doesn't stand for anything, it's actually....
I CAN clean it

[robert meldrum]

Have any of you enthusiasts ever been a member of a commitee at any level ? have you ever worked as part of a team, have you ever been in a position where you've had to work in a situation where the majority won the vote ?

All of the carpet cleaners I've come across are fiercely INDEPENDENT which makes them difficult to deal with COLLECTIVELY.

Incidentally the organisation you're so unhappy about has announced something of interest for those who are looking for a STANDARD.

The PAS86 developed by the NCCA and BSI in association with others within the cleaning industry is set to become the accepted Code of Practice for Carpet Cleaning Technicians.

[derek west]

only if we lie down and let it bob.
derek

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

Who asked them to ?




Steve

[Shaun_Ashmore]

More training ? I like it ! who will be doing the training? same old suspects?

Art for arts sake, money for god's sake.

Shaun

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

6 people deciding a code of practise for 15000 cleaners - a bit arrogant if you ask me.





Steve

[derek west]

another expence for the faithful

and  funds to replace the fallen

derek

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

Art for arts sake, money for god's sake.

Shaun

I'll give you my 10cc

[daysdeepclean]

Have any of you enthusiasts ever been a member of a commitee at any level ? have you ever worked as part of a team, have you ever been in a position where you've had to work in a situation where the majority won the vote ?

I think most of us could answer.... Yes to that question!  :

One commitee I was a member of "Cockermouth First Responders" had it's doubters, "L" bent on stopping us because they weren't seeing the whole picture. I couldn't understand why they were making such a song and dance! We were trained to deal with mainly cardiac problem patients as the ambulance usually arrived well outside of the "8 Minute Window"!

But after we saved a few lives our position and support became stronger... Sometimes Robert, you have to "Suck it and see!" (Pardon the expression)

And if the NCCA are stirring up because they've heard the jungle drums, maybe Derek has achieved more than you give him credit for!

Just a thought

[clinton]

They might end up shooting themselves in the foot( with ruber bullets)

[robert meldrum]

I have to say I'm amazed at some of what's being posted. Do any of you think the NCCA people and I'm not one of them take this seriously.

You have a novice just into his second year in the industry on an ego trip. I recollect Derek replying to posts with " advice " a couple of months into start up and chasing shadows ever since.
I'm no " doubter " Colin I've been involved in two previous groups who attempted to achieve a National Identity but eventually gave up due to the APATHY of the people whose lives they sought to improve.
That is your biggest enemy in a business situation or any situation which depends on " member involvement " Only a handful will stay the course and the majority will sit on the fence. At the end of the first year the majority will fail to renew..................
The energy spent on this would be better spent on seeking marketing and training from professional trainers / marketers.

The only problem is.............when the Trade put on such programmes they don't get the support due to APATHY. This has got worse over the years and caused many suppliers to pullout of what used to be annual shows.

[derek west]

a novice
we clean fckin carpets

 

you so crack me up with some of your comments bob.

derek

note to self, 20 years minimum before you know what your doing derek, this is carpet cleaning, not p1ss easy rocket science.

[Joe H]

Heres a chance then for anyone who wants to quiz the NCCA - I assume someone from them will be in attendance
(moderators - if this post is going to offend the host of this forum please accept my apologies and delete).

NCCA are holding a Roadshow on Tuesday 22nd Sept at Reman Sports & Social Club,
Shrewsbury SY1 4JD.

9.00am Registration

9.30am New development in products and vacuum technology - Host Von Schrader

11.00am The expert approach to carpet care specialist know how, products and back up - Woolsafe Organisation

12.00 - 1.30pm lunch - time for a natter (to NCCA reps there)?

1.30 pm The problem with spot & stain removal on Leather - LTT

2.30pm finish

Members  £25 (inc vat)

Non Members £35 (inc vat)

Price includes lunch and refreshments.

Download booking form from

http://www.ncca.co.uk/ncca_news.htm#techroadshow

or call 0116 2719550

[daysdeepclean]

So Robert, if Derek had 10 years carpet cleaning under his belt, would your opinion change? 

We all have to start somewhere... Incidently, I started actually carpet cleaning as an employee in 2002, so I suppose I am quite a seasoned C/C