[ftp]

On the few times that I trad clean a window I tend to get some smearing when viewed on a sunny day. What's the main cause? Poor blade, too much solution or not enough solution in the water?

[Dean Taberner]

Can be anything,

Mainly because theres too much and its dried on before youve had chance to remove or even that theres not enough solution and you get the sticky squegee effect.

Dean

[matt]

use GG3 and pure water

job done

[stephen s]

crap  window cleaner 

[Mike #1]

you must be letting your applicator dry out to much windows need to a bit more wet on hot sunny days , also if water is to soapy it drys on glass alot quicker, thank heavens for wfp

[Gaby P.]

On the few times that I trad clean a window I tend to get some smearing when viewed on a sunny day. What's the main cause? Poor blade, too much solution or not enough solution in the water?

Have a look at the window, before you wet it, to see if there is any fly or spider Cra* on it (they can leave streakes), then really soak the window (if it's a sunny day) and pull off.  Best to try it at home a few times

[mogy]

I have a large house with  leaded windows , which  in  bright  sinlight  apear to have   a thin  layer of dirty water  marking all over after  microfibreing  , i clean this  house just the same as others   that  are   quite ok , the only difference i can see is  it  is over hung with  large pine trees.   
The  marking   can be  buffed off with another  very energetic application with the  microfibre
My thoughts  are that the  residue may be  pollen ? off the trees

[jonnyald]

that buffing the leaded is a chore aint it , i find scrim works good as its coarse .

[ftp]

They aren't mega dirty smears they are more shiny smears if you see what I mean. Where the whole blade has left a shiny smear - enough to know which direction the blade went.
Tried Unger Easy Glide and not impressed, Squeegie off - better. I wonder if it's something everyone gets on a very bright day?
Unfortunately the only house I view from the inside is my own so I can't study someone elses work. 

[cozy]

In my experience, on hot days, it's better to get the window as wet as possible. Also, on lager windows, eg, livingroom, pull off the window in two parts.Do the top half first or left side first, then wet the other half and pull that side off. Hope that makes sense.

I tend to squeegee off faster in hot weather because of this problem, looks like I am showboating, like the guys on youtube, but I hate having to go back over a window.

By the way, scrim that you guys use are unknown here, everyone uses deer leathers.

[Mike #1]

deer leathers whats them

[cozy]

leather made from deerskin   clue in the name mate

[jonnyald]

deerskin, now thats a novelty , i spose  chamois is a kind of deer isnt it .  where are you cozy ?

[cozy]

Herford, Germany mate. It's very strong heavy duty stuff. Cheap and easy to maintain.  Leaves no smears when you use it and can be washed out anytime during work, so allround dogs danglies.

It's used for leaded windows and all detailing on trad work. One would last me about 3 months on domestic work.

[ftp]

Did a search and it would appear i'm not alone 


http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=24705.0

[jonnyald]

Herford, Germany mate. It's very strong heavy duty stuff. Cheap and easy to maintain.  Leaves no smears when you use it and can be washed out anytime during work, so allround dogs danglies.

It's used for leaded windows and all detailing on trad work. One would last me about 3 months on domestic work.

so what gear dyou buy in germany cozy, unger is it ?  i was i china on a holiday earlier this year ,i saw diffrent stuff being used there ,i saw a man using a triple pole to clean a 4 storey block (2 poles didnt move they sat on the pavement,just held the third steady , the third one had a sortof backflip on it

[cozy]

Don't know what that was in China. Sounds strange. Over here mate, it's mostly Unger stuff. Not bad for the prices.Can get replacments and extra Unger kit on any street corner. Same as with carpet cleaning kit. Buy Kärcher because they have good backup. You would laugh yourself sick if you saw how ze Germans work with WFP.

They have big trolly setups for RO and DI, and it's only used on industrial high work.They don't seem too hot on H&S on sites here either. You never need risk assessments or stuff like that. The Krauts would just give you a blank stare if you wanted to give a method statement.

Welcome to "Do what you want world". They are thorough, but not efficient !!

[jonnyald]

that made me laff,about the krauts,i can sortof imagine them.   so how do you find the old timers there? do u mention u were in the hitler youth to clinch the deals??

 that chinese guys  tri-pole  worked well,i sortof wanted it to be made of bamboo but it wasnt . i keep in touch with a couple of chinese people i met there,but once i asked about that guy i saw , they got in touch with a chinese cleaning equipment factory who wanted to know how many i could order .. ,

[cozy]

Can't imagine what that Chinese kit looks like mate. As for Hitler youth, my ex mother-in-law was actually in that 

[macmac]

The biggest problem is you don't do enough trad cleaning. Imagine how good you would be if you put only half the time, effort, practice, research & trials into trad as you have done with wfp!!

The truth is, trad takes just as much as wfp to perfect. There's technique, equipment, solution & solution ratios- which may change depending on weather conditions etc. As with wfp, you'll only get better by experience, knowing which tools to use & when etc.

But, as with wfp, everyone has a different oppinion!

I think you would be very supprised if you went out with a top, experienced trad cleaner for a day! You'd soon realise how much crap is talked on here!

If you're profficient at both then you really have no limits, swap methods to your advantage.

So, if you want my advice, practice, practice, practice, there are loads of ways you can improve & perfect your trad techniques giving you top results in far less time.