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Eddie_Rhone

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Rug Dusting/Beating
« on: June 24, 2009, 08:43:17 am »
Looking to do a Rug Cleaning service now I have found a workshop Unfortunately don't have loads of cash to purchase a Rug Badger and Grid to do the dusting I've looked at previous posts on here and i believe some people use Royal Vacs to beat their rugs with very good results. I've got a Host machine and wondered if anyone has tried that with stiff brushes to beat rugs or what other ways people beat rugs and what people use for grids

Kind Regards

Eddie

from edge2edge

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 09:01:29 am »
Eddie i only use the gold brushes with the host anything else could damage rugs i think Regards Alan(swindon)

Steve Chapman

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 10:02:29 am »
If you have access to an outside area, then what we do is attach a couple of air blowers to the rugs so

the air is blowing underneath and let them shake all the crap out of them, far more effective than

beating them and you can leave them while doing other things, works well for us and all the bits blow

away    :D


p.s. make sure they are attached well otherwise damage could occur !

steve






PaulKing

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 01:39:38 pm »
I have a rug badger and it a formidable piece of kit, just dusted on rug and got 4 lbs of dust out of it. really important part of the process to dust in whatever way you can.
www.revitaclean.com  established 1968 in Newcastle Upon Tyne

Jim_77

Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 06:44:33 pm »
I've owned a Royal for a couple of years and no other vac comes close to it, in terms of both "normal" use and back dusting.  I've had a go with a rug badger, not as impressive in the flesh as the youtube vids I have to say ::)

On many rugs I reckon you can get as much or more out with a Royal, but it would take twice as long.  There will be the odd exception though, such as very thick indian rugs that the royal just can't suck into itsslot enough to cause that resonant  vibration that makes it work well... or very thin rugs that are impossible to keep flat without three people pinning it down for you.

If you're starting off with a low volume of rugs, the badger isn't a worthwhile investment just yet, and won't be until it's running for several hours a day with the higher volume.  Get the Royal and you have a back-duster AND very efficient upright vac to do the face with.  No-brainer really IMO :)

(there are compressed air dusters around too, I think only in the states as far as i've heard.  Don't know about cost but probably need to be sitting down when you find out :P)

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 08:13:50 pm »
old fashioned wicker carpet beater.

Great exercise. Best to be kept for really long pile rugs

I just imagine I'm thrashing some really annoying customer. Carpet-cleaner rage?
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 08:18:52 pm »
Doctor it sounds as though you need a doctor ;D

Shaun

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 11:56:10 pm »
Nurse-the screens! ;D
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

Nigel_W

Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2009, 04:32:41 pm »
Eddie

 In my experience there is the world of difference between a rug professionally cleaned using a Rug Badger followed by a full immersion type clean vs  a half hearted clean using vacuum cleaners and HWE. You can see, feel and smell the difference in the cleaned rug and be confident in the knowledge that you have removed virtually all the soil and contaminants. Like Paul King I have badgered rugs and taken out half buckets of dry grit and soil prior to washing.

The Royal Vacuum is not a rug beating device. That said before I had a Rug Badger I used to use a Sebo to dust rugs and it was sort of ok but time consuming.

How are you planning to wash the rugs ?

Nigel

Jim_77

Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2009, 07:43:33 pm »
The Royal Vacuum is not a rug beating device. That said before I had a Rug Badger I used to use a Sebo to dust rugs and it was sort of ok but time consuming

CRB machines like host etc aren't intended as agitation devices for prespray but they do a bloody good job of it!

Have you used a Royal to dust a rug Nigel?  It certainly outperforms any other upright vac by a country mile :)

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2009, 07:52:27 pm »
After working in a rug cleaning plant I'd agree that full vibro beating and emersion cleaning gives a far better end result and Franklins do it for next to nothing.

Shaun

Art of Clean

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2009, 07:01:33 am »
I do know where you coming from. We all started at the bottom and had to make a plan. 

When we started cleaning rugs we did them on our patio using a sebo and portable machine.

We have since re-invested our earnings from the rugs we cleaned and bought a rugbadger and we now clean in a workshop where we can control the cleaning and drying process much better. This also allow us to take real big rugs away for cleaning.

Do not give up on your dream to clean rugs - Use the sebo/Royal/ Blower as suggested but do re-invest your earnings to9 eventually buy a badger - you will not regret it.

Here is a picture of what we removed from the 1st ever rug we badgered with our badger.

Jim_77

Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2009, 05:29:30 pm »
Hope you washed your hands before dinner that night :)

Eddie_Rhone

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 09:18:47 am »
Thanks for all your replies and thoughts very helpful.

It seems to me I'll follow Art of Cleans path start with an upright and hopefully be able to move on to more sophisicated equipment if well hopefuuly when I get to increase volume of rugs cleaned.

Jim looking at the royal it looks very similar to a Kirby vac is there an difference in the back beating ability of both machines and if so what would you say it is.

Finally what do people use , or do you use anything, as a grid for back beating or is it not  worth using a grid.

agian many thanks for your comments

Kind Regards

Eddie 

Jim_77

Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2009, 06:03:37 pm »
Eddie,

I've never used a kirby for rug dusting so can't give an honest comparison.  All I can say once again is that the royal takes some beating (scuse the pun :D).  Get one, you won't regret it, knocks spots of the sebo machines in my opinion.  I've owned one for 2 years and have just changed the brush strip.  Along with having to de-fluff it every few months, that's not a bad maintenance schedule!

A grid definitely helps.  If you're cleaning off-site, a badger grid or even some of those plastic tiles.  On-site, forget it - too much hassle and stuff to carry round!

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2009, 06:14:51 pm »
Anyone who saw those orientals I brought to the CCDO and how wet they got from a very indepth clean will probably ask " have you got a drying room?" mine took nearly a week to dry.

Shaun

Mike Halliday

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2009, 06:18:52 pm »
Shaun I've always wondered that very thing! its OK Cleaning them with submersion but how long to dry them.

I've done a few over the last month and hung them over the shed, as for beating them from the back,  I find the gravel drive makes an ideal surface ( just remove the dog poo first)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2009, 06:26:01 pm »
They dry much quicker by the seaside.  :)

If you put the TM on them and then strop it with the wand after, I bet you are still getting loads of water out.

A sand filled roller is less effort, only then get the TM on it. See if that speeds things up.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 06:32:16 pm »
When I worked at Franklins I would lift a rug in over my shoulder and after wet cleaning it would take 3 or 4 of us to lift it out of the 'davar' machine to put it on to hangers when it was cleaned and dried it would be even lighter than when I first lifted it in as the dry dust was now gone.

Holloway used to sell these mobile beating machines 30 years ago so they are nothing new what goes around comes around, same old problems with the drying though.

Shaun

Len Gribble

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Re: Rug Dusting/Beating
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2009, 06:58:38 pm »
Shaun

Just sold a Holloway :o

You were lucky last year it snowed. ;D

Len
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