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thanks hope, your right.I don't mind going on water metre, trying to move at mo.not much luck when ive got my own house, not flat i would gladly go on metre, no choice i think they fit them when new house holder moves in.just didn't want to give my parents grief from water board :can they charge me back payment?i only use 200 or less litres a day and as said been doing for over 2.5 years!