[MSTAV]

nice vid paul. The way i see it with my round is after the initial first few cleans which are tough WFP or trad to come up spotless, i get paid to maintain the customer's windows. A better way to put it is I get paid to clean already clean windows so sometimes you can clean as quick as that and not get any probs, Specialy in area's like New Ash Green and Hartly hey Paul........or any village type of areas with no through traffic etc.

[daniel worgan]

Well done that man if he can do it properly like that.
Me personally i would take longer rinsing those leaded windows,but hey if it works for you then well done.

 

[chuggers]

fine

[NWH]

Speed wise i`d say average after lunch speed.

[STEVE-UK]

I would say the brushing is the right amount for regular cleans, and sills were done ok, but doing the tops of the frames that quick will give you the odd spotting as frames hold more dirt due to the ledges.

i personally would use the same pole for tops and bottoms as it saves time, just grab your hose,pole & walk

[leapstallbuildings]

I see nothing wrong with working that way.  It looked fine to me.  To those peopl;e who thought the top windows weren't rinsed, look more carefully at the brush action.  Only the leading edge of the brush is on the glass.  This is fine with a decent flow rate IMO.  On a hotter day it's often helpful to hold brush away from glass and rinse again half way down to ensure the whole pane is rinsed properly but I don't thinmk that should give any problem.

[mlscontractcleaner]

Blimey, I bet you're glad that you don't clean windows for half of the people on here aren't you

I think you were working at normal speed; I thought everyone worked at that pace. I'd maybe have rinsed a bit more on leaded windows but I'm sure your customers would let you know if you were leaving spots, etc 

[Llaaww]

2 mins 36 +door+downstairs window  :. probably be ok if you were there every week, two at the most, otherwise you will be leaving marks somewhere.
every two months would take longer to get properly clean.

looks like a nice job, i would probably put the rate down for a more frequent clean, if it was on the route.

ps in the vid you missed the front window downstairs.

[[GQC] Tim]

On perfect sheeting windows, with good flow rate, good frames, and no trees around. This would work.

In the real world it doesn't always work like this.

Tried it today, some of the best windows I did today like this, and they came up fine. Did another house, with dirty windows, and the dirt wasn't even half way off the window after the first scrub, trees around the house, and near a busy road.

You need to pay attention to each window to determine if this speed would work or not, if you are experienced, you know which houses/windows these are. If you are a newbie, do wfp'ers a favour and scrub twice, and take your time rinsing to prevent giving wfp a bad name.

[NWH]

I WFP like this day in day out on good work domestic and commercial and have no problems at all,if he had an SL brush on that pole he would have been quicker.If your doing these windows on a regular basis scrubbing and srcubbing is not needed all the time only on certain windows or on particular parts of a property,i can see why some say it`s quicker off of ladders sometimes now lol.

[Mike 108]

On perfect sheeting windows, with good flow rate, good frames, and no trees around. This would work.

In the real world it doesn't always work like this.

Tried it today, some of the best windows I did today like this, and they came up fine. Did another house, with dirty windows, and the dirt wasn't even half way off the window after the first scrub, trees around the house, and near a busy road.

You need to pay attention to each window to determine if this speed would work or not, if you are experienced, you know which houses/windows these are. If you are a newbie, do wfp'ers a favour and scrub twice, and take your time rinsing to prevent giving wfp a bad name.

I think the above post is a very good post - it portrays WFP in an honest and realistic way, with proper advice for anyone just starting WFP.

Some cleaners will have exceptionally good rounds with nearly every clean being classed as a 'maintenance clean' - others will not be so lucky, with a high number of houses needing a 'proper' clean on a more regular basis.

And some of us are just slow!

Mike

[NWH]

Talking of being slow and at the same time common sense,i saw a WC last week park his van on the opposite side of the road and run his hose across a busy road just to pole 2 shop windows lol.

[sparklebright]

Nothing wrong with that, that's how fast I work on quiet roads with little traffic.
Though I agree with another poster who said he runs the brush all the way along, I do that too, just in case.
But with a good flow rate that will do the job nicely.

If customers feel they are charged too high an hourly rate I explain they aren't only paying for my time, but also for superior equipment that does a better job, (frames etc). I have made a substantial investment equipment to allow me to work that quickly. 

[Mike 108]

I personally would probably do that on 4 weekly cleans at the most, I like to go over them once more on 6 and 8 weekly, and spend a bit more on rinsing, zig zagging down the window fast if they are hydophillic, and slower side to side motion when hydrophobic.

Can someone explain this please?
zig zagging?
hydo and hydro?
thanks

Andy

When rinsing, you will notice that sometimes the water runs down the glass like a 'curtain' of water (hydrophillic) whilst on other windows it forms droplets on the glass that 'hang around' instead of dropping down the glass (hydrophobic).

These droplets can hold dirt which is left on the glass (as spots) when the water evaporates - therefore most cleaners spend more time rinsing hydrophobic glass.

Glass can be rinsed whilst the brush is being moved up and down, or across the window, or is being worked lower and lower in a zig-zag fashion. Everyone has their own preference.

Hope that helps.

[kris martin]

i work like the vid except i rinse off the glass and dont do top frames, i work on a 2 or 4 weekly basis so the windows are still quite clean therefore just need to be maintained, my 2 weeklys are always 100%spot free but a little more elbow greese has to go into monthly cleans, i dont generally do 2 monthly because these houses just tend to knock me out of the weekly routine (more hassle than there worth)(too me anyway)

kris

[Richy L]

I see some WFPers arounf here that take ages rinsing and rinsing again. But there is no need. You hardly need to rinse at all.
Although I am not 100% WFP, I never get any complaints when rinsing fast.
Whats the point in wasting your time rinsing a clean window

[pjulk]

Thanks for all the comments i see quite a few positive comments.

Virtually all of my work is in villages around where i live.
There is not a great deal of traffic and most properties are still sparkling from the last clean when i turn up.

Mstav works in the same area as myself and he even said he has no problem in our area working at this speed.

I think it all depends on the type of work you have i have a few jobs that take quite a while just because they are along busy main roads.

Still i think it works for me i never get complaints.
i see 50% of my customers and they are pleased with my work.
And as far as i know i have never lost a customer due to the quaility of my work.

But for people new to WFP please do not try to clean like me it will end in tears.