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Mark_P

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Yell.com good or awful?
« on: April 08, 2009, 06:16:38 pm »
hi all

Been in the business for around 6 months and have been using leaflets to date for advertising but am considering yell.com. Has anyone used yell and had good / bad response rate? Also can anyone recommend a company to get your website on page one of google?

Many thanks in advance
Mark
Mark

derek west

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 06:42:47 pm »
yell.com
worth a shot but don't hold your breath

chris boswell got me to page 1 for 10 towns/cities and 1 county in 2 weeks. not cheap though

derek

kevin sparrow

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 06:55:24 pm »
 I would stick with your leaflets if they work for you.
I have recently taken out an ad with Yell .com with not much success, whereas I had a guy deliver about 1500 leaflets and I have had 6 calls and so far 3 jobs,so I am very pleased with the response.
KevinYell .com is also over £600 with the vat

Jim Gibbard

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 08:16:50 pm »
I would stick with your leaflets if they work for you.
I have recently taken out an ad with Yell .com with not much success, whereas I had a guy deliver about 1500 leaflets and I have had 6 calls and so far 3 jobs,so I am very pleased with the response.
KevinYell .com is also over £600 with the vat

Kevin,
Where does the £600 + vat for kevinyell.com come from.  Are you refering to the domain name itself, or having a website developed for you.  The domain name is available for less than a tenner and you can get a great website for less than £300. 

However, when people search for a carpet cleaner, they usually search on location rather than a company name - unless the company is very well known - so the chances of them searching for kevinyell.com are pretty remote unless you are pushing that domain name on your leaflets.  The only people searching for my company name are people who have seen the website address on the leaflet.  Once on your website, you can give them as much information as you want.  If you advertise on Yell.com , you pay for the space you use and you can't possibly tell people as much about your company as you can with your own website.  Such as before & after photo's , customer testimonials, audio clips or video clips.  Your best investment must be a website. 

I fell into the trap of using company name for website, but have recently changed focus to location themed domain names.  I bought carpetcleanerscoventry.com and carpetcleanersolihull.com and built a 1 page website for these domains which when accessed re-directed visitors to my main website.  Both of these new domains were on Google's first page for that search term within 4 days.  So, it is best to target location rather than company name in most cases.


Jim
www.spic-n-span.co.uk
Cleaning is our Game - Excellence is our Aim !!!

derek west

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2009, 08:36:15 pm »
 ;D ;D

jim

i think its meant to read......
"I have recently taken out an ad with Yell .com with not much success, whereas I had a guy deliver about 1500 leaflets and I have had 6 calls and so far 3 jobs,so I am very pleased with the response.
Kevin.
ps....Yell .com is also over £600 with the vat"



nothing to do with kevinyell.com

 ;D ;D
derek

Jim Gibbard

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 08:49:51 pm »
Cheers for that Derek.  I understand now  ;D

Amazing the difference a little incorrect punctuation can make !!  ;D

Jim
www.spic-n-span.co.uk
Cleaning is our Game - Excellence is our Aim !!!

richy27

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2009, 09:07:50 pm »
got an enhanced listing on yell .com since nov with call monitoring free call option etc etc not one call from it. but like all advertising you dont know till you try.


Mark_P

  • Posts: 33
Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 02:54:24 am »
Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated. I think I'll just wander the streets with a megaphone, that should do it!
Mark

Joe H

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 07:47:00 am »
Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated. I think I'll just wander the streets with a megaphone, that should do it!

Do you want to hire the wife  ;D

Gary Webber

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 10:27:04 am »
Hi Mark,

Have you any local magazines or parish magazine/newsletters near you?

They tend to be cheap and generate good business because they show local businesses with little competition

Regards

Gary

CleanupBarbie

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2009, 11:19:00 am »
Hi. You probably know you can request a free listing on Yell.com.  The one line has got me the occassional work.  Worth knowing hey?

collins ReVive Stoneworks

  • Posts: 339
Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2009, 12:21:57 pm »
I have to agree with all the other comments

i bust my B"*/s with yell .com

basically if you type in carpet cleaning in your area or town  on google

yell does not even get listed as a directory its only for people familiar with using it

But most people just use google ,  so my advice is this do as some other savvy others do on here and buy the domain for your area Example , carpet cleaning leeds.co.uk  etc,  and forward to your website that is a good start,

some others like Doug do a good job in essex i dont know how many domains he  has a lot and it gets him top spot. in infact i think in many parts of the country
i think although i may stand to be corrected,

Karl collins

Gordonnis

  • Posts: 81
Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2009, 08:42:32 pm »
have been with yell for about 6 months ,and the biggest waste of money so far   0ne call in the first 4 months, so for the last 2months have had moniterd calls    phoned them on tuesday and asked how many call i have had, there reply was 6 of which 2 were missed calls  i asked if they could tell me the numbers so i could check against customer records , they refused , but said the last 2 were from teeside which is about 60miles away   these calls are from a teeside firm try to sell me insurance, so they were not even customers so all my advert is get is firms trying sell me everything    think long and hard before signing to yell.com

Jim_77

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2009, 10:14:02 pm »
I do "OK" from yell.com.  Without checking my stats, roughly 50/50 commercial/domestic (in terms of the number of calls).  The rates for carpet cleaners have gone up in the last year or so, unfortunately, but I think a standard listing is only about 240+vat or something.  If you do what I do and add on another area listing it costs about another 85.  I spent about £400 last year and have made a profit from it, but it doesn't blow me away.

I think success on yell.com really depends the most on how many other firms are also using it.  Not many others use it in my area, therefore my chances of calls and then conversions into jobs are greater.

Secondary to this, your description text or bullet points have to do the right job.  You get six bullets... I try to make mine three service descriptions and three benefits that the customer will get.  Very tricky with limited characters.

They don't let you capitalise whole words to stand out, which is annoying :(

Web link is a waste of money IMO, the decision to call is made on nthe yell site, not by clicking through to your own.

Try a standard enhanced listing for a year and see how it goes, you only stand to lose a couple of hundred quid, which is one decent job!

One other factor you have to consider is the ability to SELL.  You have to remember that if you shove a leaflet through a door, you are the only carpet cleaning company presented before the customer.  A lot of folks would get you round to quote without shopping round any further.  However, in any directory situation the customer is presented with multiple choice.  They can and do ring more than one, so you have to GRAB them.

I shudder to think how many jobs we all lose because we can't sell properly.  Most of use are tradesmen first and salesmen second.

I'll stop rambling now :)

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2009, 11:16:31 pm »
Jim

Wise words as ever.
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

dave123

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Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2009, 12:07:00 am »
stick to leaflets .Not going to renew my yp advert this time they can stick it

clinton

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2009, 07:53:09 am »
Good post jim :)

Jim do you go and do on site quotes or just on the phone ???

cheers

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2009, 08:56:45 pm »
Well this is the final throw of the dice with Yell/YP
Dropped the Yellow Pages advert but spent nearly the same on Yell, on the basis that most new business after recommendations will come from people using the computer. So it's full steam ahead with the sponsored listing and all the trimmings.

gary.coles

Re: Yell.com good or awful?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2009, 10:58:04 pm »
Well this is the final throw of the dice with Yell/YP
Dropped the Yellow Pages advert but spent nearly the same on Yell, on the basis that most new business after recommendations will come from people using the computer. So it's full steam ahead with the sponsored listing and all the trimmings.
Hi there,
it all depends who is looking for your service on the yell.com bit,but some times you think is there any one out there looking for your services!

Its all a gamble as they say,and you can poop out big time,both ways :)

                                                 Regards Gary :) :) :)