[Kevin R]

 

[Oakley Windows]

I had a comment yesterday from a lady of one of my accounts.

After Id finished she came out and said she thought the brush would damage the frames, I assured that I was confident this couldnt happen, and reminded her her of the track record of WFP in general and Ive never had this complaint before.

Anyway, she was okay about it, but on reflection, I wondered, perhaps (I can only speak for myself)  I can be a little overly vigorous with the cleaning/scrubbing action etc, and it is possible to be heavy-handed using WFP.

It made me slow down today and be a little more careful, I thus had more energy and worked on for an extra hour at the end of the day 

[suds window service]

got a comment last week from a customer......yes i can see how it happens
 to stop it happening  i stand back abit changing the angle when i clean the upstairs sills so only brush on sill

[suds window service]

dont think its got out to do with what brush you use for me its the angle at which the sill is cleaned.

[pjulk]

I have also been accused twice or scratching sills both time's were about 3 years ago.

I changed to sill brush's and no complaints since.

[mark dew]

I had this last year when i was using a vikan without the red rubber around.
Went and had a look and they did look scratched.
I buffed them up with some upvc cleaner from bnq and they came up fine again.

[pjulk]

I lost both customers i did clean them up with UPVC cleaner but still lost them.

They wanted me to go back to using ladders to which i said No

I must admit at the time i was questioning whether i made the right choice in changing to WFP and was wondering how many more of my customers sills were like that.

Luckily no one else complained because i think i would have changed back and sold my WFP gear

[mark dew]

I use gardiners new supalite brush now. I have found this the best stock so far for not leaving marks on pvc windows.

[edd]

i STARTED THIS SCRATCH THING OFF LAST WEEK  and was looking for a white stocked brush , well got a
tucker and it still will mark the sill so im very careful with sills now and have been going over everyone frames
and sills with some upvc cleaner when they are not looking lol

[smearo]

do you clean slls every time or just let water run debris away ? ? ?

[edd]

or one made off micro fibre lol

[edd]

I might glue some on lol

[Alistair@AWC]

Maybe we could ask Mr Gardiner to make a Super Light  sill brush?

Kevin,

Ive not heard anything on this for a while, but Alex did say at some point he intended to produce one.

[macmac]

You could just modify your exsisting brushes by glueing something along the bottom edge, i.e. a strip of applicator fabric or something.

[Jeff Brimble]

Baudoin had a very interesting cill brush at the show the cill brush part would prevent contact from the stock.

[Pj]

Scratching sills is something I've been checking recently, after all we don't even see above ground floor now!
I was cleaning ground floor of a property a few weeks back and I noticed the sills were badly scratched, it worried me, I thought "is that the damage I'm doing?" I've been wfp ing this particular property for almost 4 years, so I thought it must be me.
Here is what I did:  When I'd finished the whole place I got my brush head (Gardiners dualtrim supalite) and rubbed up and down the sill with the stock in my hand pressing harder than I ever would when cleaning, guess what?  No scratching at all!  So I went back round drying all the sills so I could look more closely, it was a sunny day so a good opportunity.
Here's my conclusion:  Unless they are top quality upvc windows then they were probably scratched already, either in handling, inferior upvc, or installation.  It's just that the scratches themselves were so fine and the products so clean and new that they were never noticed.  But over a period of time, years, the dirt gets in, and the scratches appear.  If they really upset someone they can easily be removed with a pvc cleaner, but I'm not offering...
 

[john tomkins]

New upvc windows wont show any scratches, it's the old type of upvc that's gone/going an "off white" colour, the brush edges are the problem but it's not really a scratch more of a line in the "off white" sill, they come out easily with upvc solvent but as it brings the sill back to white again you end up doing the whole sill.

[leapstallbuildings]

I have just had a complaint from a good customer I have had for about two years regarding our brushes scratching the sills. This is the only complaint we have had regarding this matter ever. I am going to see her tomorrow to have a look for myself.

For the last year we have used double trim brushes - Ionics, Salmon and the SL from Gardiners, prior to that we used sill brushes from Vikan.  All have black stocks and I know the dual trim type do touch the sill when you clean the bottom of the frame. However the brushes do look in good condition along the bottom edge and they are not sharp etc.

Has anybody else had issues like this before?

Yes I have.  These days I take care to only have the bristles running along the sill rather than the edge of the brush assisted by having the angle adaptor at a slighty more acute angle.  A Vikan sill brush does prevent it without needing to focus on it but I don't like them.  Also, they are a bit heavy for the poles I use.  The brushes that I found to be the worst offenders were the large Vikan ones.  The smaller ones have a red rubber surround that stops this but can leave red marks on the frame.  I do wish Vikan would bring out a 10" brush with white surround.  The point ladder manufacturers adapted as windows became white UPVC but the brush makers seem to not bother because their products are not W/C specific.

[Redcaddy]

Yes I saw the brushes they had on display at the Baudoin Stand, they had some interesting one, they looked good quality:




This one had a soft 'bumper' around the edge of the brush, and I think the sill brush underneath was removable!




This one looked pretty light too...





They seemed to have a brush for everything!

[elite mike]

those brushes look really good red caddy