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Rogue Trader

  • Posts: 1367
saving water
« on: March 22, 2009, 08:23:40 pm »
i want to be able to use more water and get quicker but every time i turn up my flow rate i am in danger of running out before all jobs are finished.
i have tried the trigger but found that my fingers ached after a few days of keeping the trigger pressed and i have also tried the autobrush which i didnt get on with due to the pressure sometimes popping the connector on the brush off and i also didnt like the inconsistent fans.
i have also tried on-off holster on belt but didnt like the wet leg situation and constantly having to buy new ez-snaps and weekly maintenance on leaking valves.
I wanna know what other systems people use to save water between windows so they can turn the flow rate up with confidence.

SonOfFormby

  • Posts: 409
Re: saving water
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2009, 08:27:44 pm »
I have used a trigger for about 18 months now, your fingers will get used to it. I used to have to go home to fill up half way through the day, but can do a full day with the trigger fitted.

Lee

dave.e

Re: saving water
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2009, 08:46:39 pm »
Hi matt3 love your website by the way. Right about your problem try and use a gas valve on the bottom off the pole this is what i have done and its been the best thing i ever did.dave

Rogue Trader

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Re: saving water
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2009, 08:55:24 pm »
gas valve?  ... tell me more

dave.e

Re: saving water
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2009, 09:02:12 pm »
gas valve?  ... tell me more

matt if you can wait till tommorrow night i will post pics and that way it will make it more easy for you to see how its done. dave

Rogue Trader

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Re: saving water
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 09:20:34 pm »
great i will look forward to that,

what does everybody else do?

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: saving water
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2009, 10:02:50 pm »
you can always do this,  ;D

it does work and very simple, i think it is bad enough holding the pole allday, never mind your  fingers stretched out on a trigger, i mean that has to hurt, i cant understand why you cant get on with the autobrush, it is the best thing out there,

Lee Pryor

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Re: saving water
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 09:26:37 am »
Hi Matt

I see you are based very near us, we are in Horley. Q. how big is your water tank?
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Rob_B

  • Posts: 248
Re: saving water
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 09:36:14 am »
i have also tried the autobrush which i didnt get on with due to the pressure sometimes popping the connector on the brush off and i also didnt like the inconsistent fans.

If you use a varistream or other flow controller you need to adjust the pressure sensitivity of it so it switches off before popping your connections. A bypass is a good solution, but as your pump is running all the time it consumes a lot of battery power. Using a varistream I only have to recharge my leisure battery once a week, using a bypass I have to every other day.

Rob.Hall

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Re: saving water
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2009, 10:41:36 am »
Have you tried a remote control switch.

Its a transmiter which is atatched to your pump.
You control the on of switch at the pole end. Mine is on a key ring.

Just like a remote on a the locking system of a car.

Rogue Trader

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Re: saving water
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 07:44:11 pm »
Hi Matt

I see you are based very near us, we are in Horley. Q. how big is your water tank?


Hello mr pryor ... seen your vans around i do a bit in horley , water tank is 500 ltrs

Have you tried a remote control switch.

Its a transmiter which is atatched to your pump.
You control the on of switch at the pole end. Mine is on a key ring.

Just like a remote on a the locking system of a car.

that sounds like a very good idea ... is it reliable when turning on and off umpteen times a day? where did you get it from and is it easy to install to the pump?

dave.e

Re: saving water
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2009, 07:56:17 pm »
Hi matt sorry i forgot to take pics off my gas valve but have a look at this link and you will see what i mean.dave
http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Microboe_fittings.html

Re: saving water
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2009, 07:56:29 pm »
Hi Matt

I see you are based very near us, we are in Horley. Q. how big is your water tank?


Hello mr pryor ... seen your vans around i do a bit in horley , water tank is 500 ltrs

Have you tried a remote control switch.

Its a transmiter which is atatched to your pump.
You control the on of switch at the pole end. Mine is on a key ring.

Just like a remote on a the locking system of a car.

that sounds like a very good idea ... is it reliable when turning on and off umpteen times a day? where did you get it from and is it easy to install to the pump?

I use a remote, got mine off ebay about £50 quid easy to fit. You won't get the range the guy says, but it's very useful.
Mine will turn on from about 150 feet, but for off you need to be a good deal closer, fine for houses, but less good for big commercial. Mount the aerial as far from the pump as you can, the pump creates interference

Rogue Trader

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Re: saving water
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2009, 08:11:21 pm »
Hi matt sorry i forgot to take pics off my gas valve but have a look at this link and you will see what i mean.dave
http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Microboe_fittings.html

Hello Dave cant see any gas valves on that link

dave.e

Re: saving water
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2009, 08:54:05 pm »
Hi matt sorry i forgot to take pics off my gas valve but have a look at this link and you will see what i mean.dave
http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Microboe_fittings.html

Hello Dave cant see any gas valves on that link

ok mate give me a min stay there won't be a sec

dave.e

Re: saving water
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2009, 08:59:07 pm »
Hi matt sorry i forgot to take pics off my gas valve but have a look at this link and you will see what i mean.dave
http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Microboe_fittings.html

Hello Dave cant see any gas valves on that link

there you go matt some thing like this

peterharwood

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Re: saving water
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2009, 09:18:54 pm »
These fittings which are hydraulic fittings are much better then anything I have used in the past, last a lot longer had this for at least 6 months now and not a wet leg or leak at all.

steve bell

  • Posts: 47
Re: saving water
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2009, 10:27:24 pm »
Hi everyone,
I have looked into this problem myself and have found that the electronic 'blipper' a very useful tool. It can be bought at Maplins for around £35. There are even different types which would lend themselves to possible variable speed/flow rates. I just have the single channel type but am considering the dual or triple channel varient. If you connect your pump via a ballast resistor which I robbed from an old sierra heater motor fan circuit you have the option of four speeds. Slow (which in actual fact is too slow to run the pump) medium (which is good for ground floor work) fast (good up to three storeys) and total bypass of the resistor which is like direct to battery.
It would not be unconcievable to connect three speeds to the maplin three channel remote controller. Like I said before I just have the single on or off controller with the speed set via the sierra switch in the back of the van.
In terms of aerial and distance from the van which it works.... I may well have cheated here. I have an old vauxhall combi with heated rear windows and have wired the aerial to one of the heating elements. (obviously having disconnected from the heating circuit and isolateing from the earth on the other side of the element) This doesn't worry me as the cab is boarded seperate to the load space and I can't look out the rear windows anyway.
Effective range is 70meters in an open enviroment, but does work with the house inbetween to around 50 ish.

Put it this way, I'm happy. Best thing I ever did. Tip* put the blipper on a long boot lace around your neck and you have easy access to it without messing in your pocket to switch on and off every time. (yes I know I look like medalion man, but it works)

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Rogue Trader

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Re: saving water
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2009, 10:59:37 pm »
thanks dave i have a similar on off valve at the end of my microbore but just hate having to search around for it when i wanna turn it off
These fittings which are hydraulic fittings are much better then anything I have used in the past, last a lot longer had this for at least 6 months now and not a wet leg or leak at all.

ive not seen this type of valve or fittings , definately interested in no leak in 6 months , where do you get this from and what fittings are they?

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: saving water
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2009, 11:55:40 pm »
have you tried getting a bigger tank??
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!