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[GQC] Tim

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My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« on: March 18, 2009, 05:35:23 pm »
Trigger at the base, minibore plugs in the back, pole tidy in the middle, 13" gooseneck. Near perfect wfp.

Trigger saves so much water, and on domestic is pure bliss to use, no spraying water everywhere, no fiddly hip valve. No, just on and off when you need it, no strain on your fingers or arm at all.

Pole tidy keeps the pole hose nice and clean, sections don't seize up anymore due to dirt. Taking the hose off is very quick, and for every section I need to take two windings off, and when collapsing it's easy to put back on.

Only thing what could be improved is a brush swivel stock (the while plastic ball ones are rubbish in my opinion) and a standardised trigger that fits on to a wfp without zipties, and that you can click on, and click off, instead of having to hold it. Even though it's from a carpet cleaning machine, it's still the best trigger on the market.

Maybe Alex can look into producing both.


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NWH

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 05:40:37 pm »
All that adds to much to the weight of the pole for me.

SonOfFormby

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 05:45:33 pm »
How's the hose tidy fitted?

Lee

Bobs Window Cleaning

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 05:46:52 pm »
Lee.

I use cable ties.

Bob
Why oh Why did he spell my name as bod & not bob on my wedding invites.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 05:55:35 pm »
How's the hose tidy fitted?

Lee

Mine comes with velcro straps.

As for the weight, it is a tradeoff, but worth it in my opinion, saves time cleaning the pole, haven't had to rinse the pole off since I had the hose thing, before that every two-three days.

Reduces wear as well. :)

ftp

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 06:00:56 pm »
All that adds to much to the weight of the pole for me.

I would agree with that - why spend £400 on the worlds lightest telescopic pole and then lift the dead weight of pole hose and microbore hose.  ???

NWH

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 06:10:19 pm »
I`ve tried something smilar to this and you can really feel the weight difference,you have the weight of nearly 30ft of hose with water in on the pole + you feel like your dragging a dead weight around with the micrbore on the end,if that pole had to come like that i wouldn`t buy it.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 06:10:55 pm »
I`ve tried something smilar to this and you can really feel the weight difference,you have the weight of nearly 30ft of hose with water in on the pole + you feel like your dragging a dead weight around with the micrbore on the end,if that pole had to come like that i wouldn`t buy it.

It's not that bad lol, sure it adds a bit of weight, but not as much as you make out.

You grab the minibore with your hand, and drag it around, not with the actual pole, I find dragging around a bit of fiddly hose connected to minibore more of a pain, then the minibore itself.

All that adds to much to the weight of the pole for me.

I would agree with that - why spend £400 and then lift the dead weight of pole hose and microbore hose.  ???

Because of all the advantages that setup gives, plus the more you extend it, the more "normal" it gets, because more hose goes up the pole, like normal anyway.

NWH

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2009, 06:15:55 pm »
I`m not knocking you for what you`ve done well done but for me it`s all about weight and less in the way when working,after 10mins i could see me snapping the pole through frustration.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2009, 06:25:03 pm »
I`m not knocking you for what you`ve done well done but for me it`s all about weight and less in the way when working,after 10mins i could see me snapping the pole through frustration.

It's okay, I didn't feel you were knocking me. :)

I see what you mean though, when I tried it once more without the pole hose on the pole, it was lighter and easier to work with. I do wish there is some other solution, I want it as light as possible too, but I found this was my ideal method of working. Two things I got fed up off, was a valve on the hip, and that pole hose getting dirtier by the minute, seizing up the pole, for me this solved both issues, I do feel I work a lot quicker now regardless of the added weight. And I don't have to rinse the pole off, which saves time too.

I'm going to try Algarde pole hose, see if that can give me some weight saving.

s.w.c

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 06:28:12 pm »
i like it all simple,

NWH

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 06:29:09 pm »
Try it with the pole hose on a similar hook or loop on your belt for the pole hose to loop over or round,when you extend you take more hose off the hook.I`ve known someone to use this method and he swears by it.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 06:29:45 pm »
Hopefully when and if poles/brushes get lighter, it will be more and more practical.

Or maybe in 5 years time we won't use pole hoses any more, who knows. And maybe an electric solenoid small and light enough to fit in the pole will sort out the water on demand, and the push of a button on the pole will turn the flow on.

Try it with the pole hose on a similar hook or loop on your belt for the pole hose to loop over or round,when you extend you take more hose off the hook.I`ve known someone to use this method and he swears by it.

Sounds allright, but then I can't put the pole down, and walk back to the van without dragging the pole with me.

It's all still not perfect, but wfp is still being improved I guess.


NWH

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 06:32:56 pm »
You just unplugged from the micrbore.

SonOfFormby

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 08:12:15 pm »
I have used a trigger from day one, so am used to it, and will definately give it a go when I get my sl-x, it feels weird when I use my sl-2 with no trigger, and the trigger doesn't really weigh that much.

Lee

windowswashed

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2009, 09:28:59 pm »
Try it with the pole hose on a similar hook or loop on your belt for the pole hose to loop over or round,when you extend you take more hose off the hook.I`ve known someone to use this method and he swears by it.

That would drive me up the wall doing it that way lol

[GQC] Tim

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2009, 10:28:54 pm »
I have used a trigger from day one, so am used to it, and will definately give it a go when I get my sl-x, it feels weird when I use my sl-2 with no trigger, and the trigger doesn't really weigh that much.

Lee

Yea it feels really weird when I use my SL2 as well.  :D

jouk45

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2009, 11:03:59 pm »
my ideal pole is one with no clamps, and rises and drops pneumatically with a button,  ;D

Dave Turley

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2009, 08:27:01 am »
why don't you all just stick a tap 1 metre away from the end of your microbore and loop the last metre around your neck?

the tap is always to hand between your chest and waist, and  is there for use with sl2 as well.

you could spray your sl-x pole hose with ptfe spray to prevent dirt sticking to it

Alex Gardiner

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Re: My (almost) ideal SL-X setup.
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2009, 08:29:48 am »
why don't you all just stick a tap 1 metre away from the end of your microbore and loop the last metre around your neck?

the tap is always to hand between your chest and waist, and  is there for use with sl2 as well.

you could spray your sl-x pole hose with ptfe spray to prevent dirt sticking to it

This is how my father uses his tap. He has it attached to the pole hose and always has enough hose between the tap and the pole end connector to have it draped around his shoulders, tap on chest and then the connector to the microbore on the ground.