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SteveAllan

wagtail
« on: March 18, 2009, 04:37:31 pm »
Had a go with a wagtail today, ace bit of kit. Wish i had done that before buying my trolley, could have saved a fortune ;D
The wc showing me never uses ladders now and has a very good technique with it, do many of you guys use one.

br00ksy

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 06:25:16 pm »
I use a couple of different sizes, Its a great tool and i find it much faster than my previous mop and squeegee. I hardly use ladders at all, only for access, it takes getting used to but is well worth trying. Who showed you it ?

dave0123

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 06:29:20 pm »
I didnt get on with mine thought was load of cack, maybe the big ones be good on shops though.

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I hardly use ladders at all, only for access

What about all the leaded windows? and little square windows and so on.
Dave.

ftp

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 06:43:16 pm »
Yep came to the same conclusion myself - overpriced gimmick only suitable on very big glass with no frames. Ok ish for insides.
Crap design - the only contact of the applicator to the glass is through a couple of milimetres of squeegie blade  ??? Then there's the problem of flipping it over the blade in the first place then the problem of the cloth flopping in the dirt on a vertical stroke. Utter rubbish for me.

dai

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 08:09:11 pm »
I still think that the original Wagtail Combi is the best trad tool ever made, I have used one for years and I think I am pretty good with it.
Having said that, I would find it impossible to carry out work to my standards using one on a pole.
There is nearly always some little bit of detailing to do, even when i am standing in front of a 4ft square pane.
How do you clean split frames with a pole? If you can't wipe the bottom of the top pane, what happens to the drips? And how can you wipe over the bottom of the frame and the sills?

R W C

Re: wagtail
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 08:30:00 pm »
I have to say i only think its any good for inside shopping centers on the end of a pole, anything else i dont like it, the applicator gets worn so quick that after about 2 days of use it looked shot to bits,

Bazzy1999

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 09:29:43 pm »
Ive got one of those flipper things and i cant get on with it.
I like the swivel handle i can get on with that but not the flipper bit....
It now sits dried up somewhere in the back of my van........ :-\

Bazz...

Rob_B

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009, 12:52:47 pm »
I bought one for a bit of a play and decided to use it on a restaurant for fun that has 3 sides of glass. I've got to admit it is a pretty good tool. I would say that with set up times with my wfp this orbital wagtail was almost as fast, but with no hoses laying about and I only probably used half a litre of water.

I don't think I will be trying on houses though. Fanlights would be poor with no detailing.

chuggers

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 01:43:56 pm »
you guys are just not skilled enough  ;)

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SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 03:55:53 pm »
Just took delivery of one today. Have to say it is a good bit of kit and for low level stuff where you can detail it's a great idea.  Good as well for high level inside stuff where detailing doesn't matter.  As for using it on upstairs domestic, I don't think that would be a great idea as bedroom windows would have marks on the edges.

I'm not thoroughly convinced on the single pass idea either, if the window is cleaned on a very regular basis ie once a week it would work but I think it would struggle to do loads of windows in a row in single passes.

A good tool though I purchased it to do some high level inside work where detailing doesn't matter and access is very difficult.

Simon.

br00ksy

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 05:34:18 pm »
I clean my windows to a high standard and wipe all frames and sills. I use the wagtail on first floor and ground floor windows and hardly have any detailing. It really is a quick tool if used  correctly i have no lines down the windows and also use it on split windows with no runs down onto the second pane.

The tool was designed to run drier over the window when mopping as it only has a slim strip to hold a limited amount of liquid this means that you should have less to detail along the top and edges. I use the newer design with the flipper on the underside of the blade this helps when squeegeeing down as the water pulling down partially soaks back into the mop.
Over soaking the mop to compensate for less mop material just causes problems with detailing and causes runs.

I use these daily and like most other users had to go through a learning curve,  i regularly get comments and questions off my customers how i can get such a good finish on the upstairs windows with a pole, its just practice and persistence. 

If anyone has one they dont want, im after a couple of spares. Also if your having problems with it, mail me through the forum and i will try to help.

ftp

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Re: wagtail New
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 08:35:12 pm »
How about a vidio of it in action on typical British windows?

Are you 'Wagga' on another forum?

br00ksy

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Re: wagtail
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 09:10:04 pm »
No im not wagga, but i know who your on about thats chris he was the one who tempted me into using one in the first place and like everyone else i found it odd to use at first. I was using a mix of trad and wfp before that, but i persevered with it and couldnt work without it now.