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geefree

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Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« on: March 12, 2009, 09:36:16 am »
Hi,

I think around £110 is a fair amount to pay for an everyday, standard use  pole,... but after 6 months the clamps wear away,

take the pole apart to clean it.. and i find the hidden ends of each section have been eaten away with wear and tear, like its been chewed by a dog....

so clean it up...and on we go...making the most of a bad job...

patching the clamps up, tightening things every ten minutes..

The second thing to wear away is the narrowest first section..

firstly, the brush starts to spin around , hence no pressure to clean sills,

then its pulled out a bit , to give the clamps more grip on the pole.

after a month of doing this, that part even starts to wear out.

now, after around 14 months or so, i could squeeze any section of the pole .....and crush it with my hand quite easily...

two of the sections have a split.. about 6 inches long.

I know people say you get what you pay for......and people pay hundreds of pounds for a pole...... but i paid £100 ish for a pole to clean windows... not a tenner or twenty quid !

And.... i  swap poles around , so i dont hammer any one particular pole to death.. but they still wear away with great speed.!


I think i am safe to say

i expect a better , longer lasting product for that amount of money.

Not happy.


Gary.


Window Washers

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 09:43:12 am »
£100 is the bottom end poles they are not built to last, are you talking about xtel poles by any chance ? if you are you can get replacement sections
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

geefree

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 09:47:53 am »
Hi Ian,

Yes.....

Also i know its the bottom end... but its not a bottom price at over a ton!

3 sections are no good really, so i will have to buy another...
i just didnt expect it to wear away so quickly,

like i said too, i alternate poles, and i am also trad too.

if i bought a used pole for 40 quid, i would expect problems..

but a new one.. well, problems started after 3 months , just a little suprised.

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2009, 09:53:00 am »
I bought some araldite yesterday for £5.00 to try to re-enhance the sections of pole where the clamps bite, if I get another 2 months out of it I'll be happy, but Gazza the everyday 17' pole is £64.00 including VAT.

mark dew

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 09:54:51 am »
My xtel pole lasted me over a year before i stopped using it due to spinning.
Although it went the same way as yours did gazza in around the same time.

matt

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 09:56:15 am »
http://diywfpole.webs.com/

fishing pole

though mine is looking old now, but then again its 20 odd months old now

all for 21 quid , a steal and a deal  ;D ;D

landy2

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 10:03:38 am »
i agree with garry £100 is a lot of money and like you say you can go into thousand of pounds for a pole but they are all over priced for what they are but you just can not get them anywere so they know this and that keeps the price up its like when you buy a new car and you have to buy a replacement part for it you have to take out a second morgage

cybersye

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 11:41:38 am »
Its always a compromise, price vs weight vs durability.
I only have 2 poles, xtel hybrid 40 ft (over 6 months old and no problems with wear )
and a harris for bog standard everything else, cheap as chips. I adapted the black screw on piece on the end to take an angle adapter and run hose on the outside so when the pole has had it all I have to do is screw it straight on to a new one, a 60 second job. ;)
I know someone with a brodex prolong pole, if you are after durability over anything else ( ie; weight and price ) I'd suggest going for one of them.

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 11:56:53 am »
i got mine from emporium for 30 quid (or you could make it yourself for 20), its 17 footer and i keep the clamps loose and use it as a clampless pole ( no clamps to worry about ), i would never dream of paying 100 quid for a 17 footer, if i did have to fork out that kind of cash then i would be looking for a 40 footer at the very least.

chrismroberts

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2009, 12:23:40 pm »
http://diywfpole.webs.com/

fishing pole

though mine is looking old now, but then again its 20 odd months old now

all for 21 quid , a steal and a deal  ;D ;D

The fishing poles look great, and cheap, but they're modular arent they? Seems a lot of hassle for domestic work?

ftp

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 02:00:20 pm »
Don't know what your moaning about - my first extender pole lasted five weeks!

pingu

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 02:10:43 pm »
I am at the point of lopping another 15mm off my SL-X as the inner faces have worn yet again on the very top section...so I know so far that I personally have had to cut 45mm from the lenght of my SL-X to stop these spinning issues...carbon is ok...but is does wear...so be it a 100 quid pole or a 400 odd quid pole...wear will still occur.

Dave.

matt

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2009, 02:46:08 pm »
http://diywfpole.webs.com/

fishing pole

though mine is looking old now, but then again its 20 odd months old now

all for 21 quid , a steal and a deal  ;D ;D

The fishing poles look great, and cheap, but they're modular arent they? Seems a lot of hassle for domestic work?

exactly what i thought, too much hastle

then i glued them in double sections, so i have the short end for downstairs, then 2 other sections

as easy as you can get and faster then using clamps

ftp

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 02:54:53 pm »
Trouble with fishing poles is that i think i would miss all that hose jamming up that you get with telescopic poles - you know when you need to extend that last section and it's wrapped like a boa constrictor round the pole.  >:(

matt

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 02:57:43 pm »
Trouble with fishing poles is that i think i would miss all that hose jamming up that you get with telescopic poles - you know when you need to extend that last section and it's wrapped like a boa constrictor round the pole.  >:(


add to that the dragging of the wheelie bin, garden bench, 2 kids bikes and 5 plant pots

 ;D ;D ;D

chrismroberts

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2009, 03:32:52 pm »
http://diywfpole.webs.com/

fishing pole

though mine is looking old now, but then again its 20 odd months old now

all for 21 quid , a steal and a deal  ;D ;D

The fishing poles look great, and cheap, but they're modular arent they? Seems a lot of hassle for domestic work?

exactly what i thought, too much hastle

then i glued them in double sections, so i have the short end for downstairs, then 2 other sections

as easy as you can get and faster then using clamps

Sounds good, could you give more detail? Have you got a picture?

elite mike

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 04:38:35 pm »
http://diywfpole.webs.com/

fishing pole

though mine is looking old now, but then again its 20 odd months old now

all for 21 quid , a steal and a deal  ;D ;D

The fishing poles look great, and cheap, but they're modular arent they? Seems a lot of hassle for domestic work?

i have been using them with no probs for a while

once you get used to them you wont go back  8)

geefree

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Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 05:59:54 pm »
I bought some araldite yesterday for £5.00 to try to re-enhance the sections of pole where the clamps bite, if I get another 2 months out of it I'll be happy, but Gazza the everyday 17' pole is £64.00 including VAT.

Hi

I paid 84 plus vat plus deliver 21 ft.

it seems they will all wear much the same as each other.... i have a fishing pole, but i do get annoyed with the hose outside, also they are not really long enough for a lot of windows over conservatories, and i based my leaflet drop on this....so i have lots and lots....

they are ok if you have a lot of semis on the same street....even so, i keep treading on the pole sections in the garden... and i always have panic attacks thinking i have left sections, so i stop van to check  ::) ;D


Anyway , i want one with clamps that will last for a sensible price...

i have used areldite... oh i have dont lots of things to make them last.
They dont last.

But They Should !


Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 06:36:10 pm »
I dont mean to be a stickler, but for your run of the mill, bulk dross pole, at £64.00 which is probably going to get dropped, stepped on, thrown around like theres no tomorrow, forced at dodgy angles, made to earn its keep....if it lasts a year it works out (including holidays/sick time off etc etc) at about 29p per day.



Stop bloody moaning you old woman.

elite mike

Re: Poles. You get what you pay for. or do you.?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 06:37:54 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D