[suffolkclean]

Rob - You have Mail

[mark_roberts]

Get someone who knows what their doing, watch them and do the same thing the next time.

You dont want to buy this floor as it would look crap in your lounge.

Mark

[expro]

Hi Barbara
I think that rob is the one to go with but I would disagree on one or two points.
Firstly on Altro safety floors I was told by Altro that you should never use a black
pad it is too aggressive and can pick up carbon black from the aluminium particles in
the floor
Secondly I was told by Altro and Prochem that you CAN apply up to 3 coats of polish
PROVIDED that the floor is not in a wet area and y
ou get the customers written  permission

[expro]

Sorry Barbara,I forgot to add that on my previous post that it only applys
to ALTRO Floors and not any other manufacturers.You can always contact Paul
Gardiner of Tech services at Letchworth he is usually very helpful.
If I have any doubts I always seek advice from either the chemical maufacturer
or the flooring manufacturer.

[Robert Parry]

Expro,

I agree with you on the black pad, but in my defense, the floor looks in poor condition, so I would be surprised if any reaction took place, and I should have put TEST FIRST!

So many thanks for the words of caution 

Regarding the polish, this is not the first time I have heard this, many moons ago, there was a bit of a debate on this very matter, when I phoned ALTRO I asked them to put that in writing, they refused! Although, verbally was a different matter

Personally, I would never put polish on any safety flooring, in todays climate, some one trips, slips, I know who would be liable, no matter what.

Barbara, you have mail, and many thanks for taking the trouble to say thanks

Regards,

Rob

[murky]

Re previous posts on this.

Its Altro.

They are in Letchworth, Herts they have a really friendly tech dept.

They will send you easy to understand instructions and probably send you a couple of litres free of their cleaner, as above, clean with a machine, that way you get uniform pressure on the floor, if you get down on your hands and knees you are putting more pressure than a machine and you will possibly get uneven areas. (You weigh more than a machine, geddit).

You might need to use a mild solvent like white spirits on the black marks (called heel scar) that will impress 'em.

And off you go.

Good luck.

Murky

Rinse it with a mild acid to neutralise it just in case, and no, you dont put a dressing on it.

[suffolkclean]

Thanks murky - I will get in touch with them, you've all been great for info on this. My husband is going to go on the prochem hard flooring course too. I will contact altro in Letchworth I like to sound of free chemicals. If we get this job it'll be a real learning curve.

[suffolkclean]

We've got the job!  So big thanks to everyone especially Rob incl.help on pricing was great. I've contacted Altro and they emailed a leaflet with information on regards to cleaning. I'll have to take some AFTER pics
Barbara

[Robert Parry]

Good news Barbara,

Well done, hope it's the first of many!

Dont forget to let us know how you got on.

Regards,

Rob

[suffolkclean]

I will Rob - As you said hope its the first of many. She didn't say an outright NO either on my regular contract price she said she'll let me know on that one. I'm sure she's waiting to see how well we do on the one off - no pressure ehh 

[suffolkclean]

Job complete!! Floors came up lovely apart from some black marks which wouldn't come off even with 100% Ultrapec renovate, hubby said it was scraped with studs from football boots. Did exactly as you said Rob, used Green pads hired scrubber & bought a wet & dry hoover. Cleaners hoovered all floors then took 8 hours to clean which wasn't bad at all.
Customer was going to look at it this morning and I havn't heard anything yet?
Thanks for everyones advice on this one 

[Robert Parry]

Hi Barbara,

Glad to hear all went well, on to the next one now!

Regards,

Rob

[Les]

My thoughts too. The flooring 'looks' like  'non slip Safety Flooring'. A Health Centre that we clean has just had all it's new extension fitted out with it but in a different colour.

We haven't had to deep clean it yet as it's all very new, but I would advise against using a soft bonnet as suggested in an earlier post, (in good faith) as the floor will rip it to shreds.

Definitely don't use any sealant products if it is non slip though.

Les  

[Les]

Ignore my comments....
it would appear that I missed page 2 before posting my comments.

Glad it went well, one way or the other we're all learning, hopefully, all the time.

Les 

[Griffus]

Sorry I missed the boat on this one.

We clean Altro flooring on new installations and it certainly can be a nightmare.

We have however discovered the best method is to use Altro's own product, Altro 44 for regular grime and stains. We dilute with hot water and spray using a low pressure sprayer. We then use a rotary fitted with a blue poly brush to scrub the entire area. We then we extract with a wet vac and finally dry buff with a microfibre mop.

The real problem for us comes in the form of gloss paints, adhesives and worst of all resins that get splashed about. For this we have best success with a solvent cleaner and a combination of rotary with poly and elbow grease.

Some resins will not budge though which means the flooring is already ruined. The problem is that you won't know until you try. Be sure you point this out to your client from the off. Never guarantee results, only that you will do your best.

As others have said Altro themselves are as helpful as can be and I cannot fault them and their technical advice. If in doubt then give them a call.

Best wishes

Ian

[suffolkclean]

Yes the flooring is Non slip Altro. Altro emailed me info on cleaning advice - manual & with machinery.As you can see from pics its ivory coloured and used a lot for footballers, there is a notice saying 'no football boots' which is obviously ignored.

I've learned a lot on this one - I'm now looking at hard floors thinking -oh that looks like altro flooring (I'm SAD)

[suffolkclean]

She called today - DELIGHTED with the work we did, it looked amazing and said the floor had never been cleaned so well!! She sai ' I don't know what you used on it but its the best clean it's ever had'!!
That was a nice end to the week 

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Can't wait to see the pictures it's been a long long time since I did a hard floor. Congratulations Barbara and hubby, how big was the area? and (if a dare) how much did you charge?

Shaun

[Ricky M]

Barbara,

140sqm
 

Labour cost would be £320

Chemicals approx £60

Pads £40

[murky]

Lets see the pics then.