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geefree

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2009, 09:50:08 pm »
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Gazza I will resend your certificate later on - must get back to work, if you haven't received it by this time tomorrow please email me.
Thanks
Pete  ;)


Thanks

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geefree

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2009, 09:54:30 pm »
Joined a couple of weeks ago... only got a sticker for van....

will i recieve any info? i thought i would.

Gary.

Did you get the member cert via e-mail?

All info is in the hidden "Guild members only" section on another forum (Its bad form to post a link, but I sent it on the original mail a couple of weeks back). Let me know your username there and I'll upgrade your privileges so you can access the board!
:)


hi, do you mean the congratulations email?... i got that, it said something else will follow via email in a day or two, but nothing came.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2009, 09:58:34 pm »
Joined a couple of weeks ago... only got a sticker for van....

will i recieve any info? i thought i would.

Gary.

Did you get the member cert via e-mail?

All info is in the hidden "Guild members only" section on another forum (Its bad form to post a link, but I sent it on the original mail a couple of weeks back). Let me know your username there and I'll upgrade your privileges so you can access the board!
:)


hi, do you mean the congratulations email?... i got that, it said something else will follow via email in a day or two, but nothing came.

I'll re-send the link,... all the info is on another forum,...

geefree

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2009, 10:06:42 pm »
 ;)

Nathanael Jones

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2009, 10:16:22 pm »
I know, I know,... a Trade Association would send out a monthly newsletter,... but @ £12 a year our "club" can't afford all those stamps and envelopes!!

:)

To keep member fees low, the Guild does as much as possible via forums, e-mail etc etc. Even the member certs are delivered in electronic format via e-mail. It's all aimed at keeping member fees low,.. keeping that money in YOUR pocket!
:)

luther1

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2009, 10:31:32 pm »
If i go to price a domestic job and the customer can see that i am a member of The Guild then that surely means more than  someone who isn't, be it just a sticker and certificate, or whatever it is to be judged.I have a couple of other logos on my vans and people like to see that. On stationary etc it all looks good and if i price a job and the local 'ladder on top of the family car' brigade price it cheaper,i would expect to get it. Every little helps to make our job look more professional. Therefore,i hope to join. Spent more than £12 last night on a take away! Portraying and conducting a  good image speaks volumes.

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2009, 10:41:43 pm »
Doug

I would consider the SLWCN to be far more advanced than the guild.

Until the Guild fulfill one or more of the above points then it is just a club.

Dave

www.mgwc.org

read the statement: it IS a club, decide if it is for you or not.

the scottish licensed window cleaners network (slwcn) is something i too champion as it directly affects me, i live and work in scotland and pay my license fees to the councils that i work in, and as such i expect the council to make sure that licensed window cleaners are protected from the unlicensed brigade who take our work and undercut etc, but alas the councils dont seem to care, so thats the reason why i extol the virtues of the slwcn, as doug and co are doing the job that the councils are neglecting to do  ie fighting for licensed window cleaners to win the official contracts and tenders which the councils supposedly adhere to, which they dont BTW, according to my knowledge the scottish parliament building in all its splendor was cleaned by a window cleaning company that have unlicensed lads doing the work.....and that is just plain mad in my book, the top official building in scotland using in effect illegal workers to do work in there?. no wonder the rest of the country dont even give it a second thought.

so ask me to defend the slwcn again and i will be right there among the doubters and critics to rally to their defence.

do i think the guild is identical/equal to the slwcn?.......NO (not least because the slwcn is geographically bound)

as co-founder of the international guild the intention at the outset was never to compete with the slwcn or the fed or any other TRADE association as that was always going to be a road filled with legal obstacles and pitfalls which we all knew would present problems in some form or other.

However as a passionate member of the guild 1st and foremost (admin second ) i have to say that the majority of the members concur with the ethos of the guild which is to give people like myself who are maybe a smaller company or even a one man band the chance to belong to "a club" or similar where there are other window cleaners who have the same line of thought that its better to be part of "a club" than to be part of nothing....i dont expect that the ones who are members of the FED or similar will be queuing up to join, as they ( yourself excluded of course) probably think its beneath them to join something like the guild...which is fair enough and if they are truly happy with the FED then who are we to argue?

give the guys who want to join the guild the benefit that they KNOW what the guild is and what its goals are and its expectations, which i think anyone who takes the time to read the information on www.mgwc.org will surely be able to understand ;)

DASERVICES

Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2009, 11:43:25 pm »
Graeme,

My post was not aimed at the Guild or anyone else, just wanted to clarify the term "government recognised"

Dave has answered that for me. ;)


DASERVICES

Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2009, 11:46:56 pm »
You have to know my aims  ;)

Sitting with an elected Government Official today and then quoting law, facts and figures which is way over their head but guided in the right direction ;)

Moderator David@stives

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2009, 12:17:33 am »
All i can see with these free organisations is that people want something for free and dont want to pay for it, there is more to it than a monthly magazine.

 The more people who join the "free clubs", then the more it leaves me to compete with meaningful accreditations.

People ask me how have i grown my business etc, i give you the answer in front of your eyes, but still people dont want to listen.

I will say no more.

bluez

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Re: MASTER GUILD????
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2009, 10:37:29 am »
I cant see the harm in the Guild.

It's £12 a year
You get a listing on the web site
You get a logo that you can use on your Van & stationary
You get the support of other members via a private forum.

You dont get much else yet but isnt that enough for starters at £12 and hopefully the Guild can do more for it's members in time.

I support it because I like the enthusism of the founders and because they deserve support for trying to do something positive, instead of just talking.

hi

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: MASTER GUILD???? New
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2009, 10:40:48 am »
Graeme,

My post was not aimed at the Guild or anyone else, just wanted to clarify the term "government recognised"

Dave has answered that for me. ;)




i agree doug and my answer was directed at dave, and yes the question has been answered completely now, that the guild is NOT an officially UK,USA,EUROPEAN,AUSTRALASIA and REST OF THE WORLD governments recognised body, and we make no pretences that it is, how could it? as its an international guild it would be mad to try to attempt that, i for one  cant afford the air fare to all these places ( lets have a look to double check, i have enough for a pound fare on ryanair from glasgow to dublin ;D ) NO it aint going to hapen.

someone else said it, 12 quid gets you a round of drinks at your local and its gone before you know it, for that same 12 quid you get all the benefits of being in the guild for a full year, a professionally designed van decal, certificate, listed on an international website and so on.

but your right there is no need for anyone to say any more on the subject as the question has been answered, that the members of the guild are intelligent enough to fully understand what the guild is and what its core values are before they joined.