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JandS

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Re: axminster
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 07:59:36 pm »
Anybody got a picture of a BW>
Never come across one yet but wouldn't know if I did.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Ken Wainwright

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Re: axminster
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 08:04:51 pm »

Mark

That used to be the case as most axminsters were "spool axminsters" so you could clearly see the pattern.  Today, virtually all are gripper axminsters and the pattern is barely detectable on the reverse, if at all.

With traditional wiltons, the face yarn will run through the backing until it is required to "pop upto the surface" to generate a new face tuft.

Belgian Wilton patterns are usually visible on the backing.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

markpowell

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Re: axminster
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 08:06:55 pm »
John,
The face fibre on a BW is polyprop so if you do a float test and the fibre floats, then lift the carpet in 1 corner and inspect the backing.
The weft shots on  BW run in both directions crossing each other.  
BW used to stand out like a sore thumb with bold pattern but these days they can be plain, however i believe that the newer versions are not as prone to shrinkage as the older ones.
you may have already cleaned one without even knowing, dont be scared by them, i have cleaned loads that other cleaners have run a mile from and never had any probs, check all fixings and if not sure you can get carpet tacks and tack every foot or so leaving the head proud so that the customer can pull out once dried.
Mark

markpowell

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Re: axminster
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 08:08:24 pm »

Mark

That used to be the case as most axminsters were "spool axminsters" so you could clearly see the pattern.  Today, virtually all are gripper axminsters and the pattern is barely detectable on the reverse, if at all.

With traditional wiltons, the face yarn will run through the backing until it is required to "pop upto the surface" to generate a new face tuft.



Cheers Ken wasnt sure
Belgian Wilton patterns are usually visible on the backing.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken

murky

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Re: axminster
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 09:19:38 pm »
Well done Ken,

You beat me to it with the Brinton, especially the belltwist.

Did a whole house last year (famous TV producer) big suite and did the lounge carpet afterwards,  not until I was packing up did I realise the carpet had a certain'springiest' to it. It was drum tight on the grippers, I hadnt  even looked at it thought it was a sec backed 80/20 wool nylon mix, closer look at it and realised it was a Brinton.

Quick back in with the porty and just said I wasnt happy with my work and that I allways like to leave them drier than this. Got away with it but phew, close call.

Murky


Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: axminster
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 10:59:17 pm »
Mark

BEware rust marks from tacks.

I'm sure you also know that recommended best practise is to tack through a furniture foil tab to make it easy to spot tacks and not miss any when uplifting them later.

Roger
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

JandS

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Re: axminster
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2009, 09:37:30 am »
Cheers for that Mark and good idea Doc.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.