[JandS]

I always use Prochem on leather.
Yesterday I did a cream 3 piece and compared the Prochem up against the stuff I recently bought from LTT place.
And the winner                                                            Prochem.
What do other peeps use?

John

[Buster Ingram]

You do surprise me John I would of thought LTT would have come out on top owing to the fact they are  renouned for being leather consultants

[markpowell]

I have used both products and imo the LTT products are far better than Prochem.
Mark

[robert meldrum]

I suppose it depends on the individuals knowledge, or perception of what clean really means, rather than someone who might have used Fairy liqiud, or saddle soap and THOUGHT they'd got a fantastic result !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I think with LTT and Furniture Clinic it's down to the method of cleaning not the product, Prochem's cleaner is much harsher and attacks 'chemically' where Ltt and FC are based on aggitation and absorbtion from sponges and rinsing.

Main thing is if you are happy and it causes no damage carry on but from experience I use FC Ultra clean as I can't get rid of the stuff as it goes on forever and it's safe, YES I have stripped finish of a suite but that was with either Prochem or Chemspec but it was that long ago I can't remember which one.

Shaun

[derek west]

A women who i quoted for used fairy liquid and a nail brush, far better results than i could achieve with LTT products,
i laughed and left.
and before you say, "you should of educated her"
i tried but obviously, it wasn't registering.
derek

[clinton]

Derek

Some you just caint get through to them so let them get on with there fairy liquid lol.i had one a while back and she used bleach on a cloth and said how good the results were

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Sometimes customers are wanting a quick fix, education isn't on their mind it's when and how much. These people if they choose your service may only use you once because you have offered them a solution immediately and they live for today but will use another cleaner tomorrow because the number was to hand.

That's life and forgetting the business building side for 1 minute let's not forget we are here to clean and make a profit we all see a wide spectrum of people you just have to take the money sometimes and don't forget to smile.

Shaun

[clinton]

Am not cleaning much upholtery at the mo and have had not one suite to clean since xmas.

There again some sofa companys are doing such good deals from 299 pounds and suites that were £2000 now down to under £600.

Some leather suites have got 65%off at the mo.

[derek west]

clinton
and don't forget
3 years interest free credit and nothing to pay for 20 years, but offer ends in an hour, until it ends, then its another hour.
derek

ps, just done the final amendments to my website, its looking very dandy, and very pink.

[clinton]

Derek

HAAAAH

Even discount for an oldie like me 

Wouldnt mind a look at your new site

Wonder if marks doing mine next :

[Derek_Walker]

When I first attempted to clean leathers without knowing any difference I used cream cleaners and sometimes you could see the colour on the cloth. This was obviously a layer of pigment coming off, which is why it looked cleaner. I believe some of these products may have contained de-limonene which is quite harsh to clean with. As Shaun says the water based products are safer to use.

[Joe H]

About 3 years ago I bought Prochem Leather Cleaner and Prochem Leather Conditioner.
Used them once and not been off the shelf since.

I will stick with LTT or Furniture Clinic, and htere is some stuff from a company in Scotland - Solutions (nothing to do with the one in Cornwall) I find their stuff ok as well.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Come Derek the pink

Show us your website!

Shaun

[derek west]

can't yet.
its not online.
i tried putting my home page up as a pdf but couldn't.(file to big) soon as its done i'll post the url. see what yas think.
derek

[carpet_care]

I am the same as you Joe used prochem leather cleaner once or twice years ago couldnt get satisfactory results , then started using micro splitters better results but not ideal as not made for leather cleaning and always felt if I had a problem the ownes would be more on me with not using a purpose designed leather cleaner.

 Then started using furniture clinic products big improvement,then the sponges that paul moss recommended and wow  the best results possible when using these 2 products.

 And happy customers  ;



 Andy Locke

[clinton]

Derek

Be good to have a peep mate,you going to get it seo or whatever

[derek west]

mark says ad words is better, he's gonna max it for ad words, if its not working then i'll get it seo'd.
must admit i really like its simplicity. he's designed it so everything can be seen without scrolling down for ages. minimilistic wording and some good pictures from mike halliday
and its pink, woohoo!
derek

[Robert Watson]

"ad words is better, he's gonna max it for ad words"
I`m getting worried now.

[clinton]

Derek

Am not sure about add words etc so am going to get mine seo,d

Think mine is going to be on the same lines as well and keep it simple

Was chating with some other c cleaners and we all agreed that the person who is looking for a cleaner is not going to read all about cleaning machines hp and water lift etc