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simon smith50

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help me please
« on: January 28, 2009, 05:40:41 pm »
help me please
i have been in the business of providing cleaning services for the last 4 years full time as a window cleaner on both residential and small commercial  premises and in one way or another for most of my life 30 + years however i am now looking to commence a purely commercial office cleaning service and would like some help in being able to hit the ground running rather than hitting the bottle or ending it all as i seem unable no matter what i try to gain residential or commercial clients using my current methods of gaining clients .
currently running phone book ads and leafleting as much as i am able , have previously tried radio local press and breakfast clubs to name but a few .
currently trading as s w c cleaning , was looking to change trading name but not sure what to any ideas and any help greatly  received   i can be contacted on 07891087386 or by my email on ,my profile
oh , have also had a website   need a new one but as i am trying to de personalise the name i haven't done anything about that yet .
hoping you can help
respectfully yours
simon
i'm based in swindon , wiltshire
would consider any help  especially any sub contract work to help me get going
thanks  all
now we're flying
flipper and pole all the way

simon smith50

  • Posts: 198
Re: help me please
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 07:46:24 pm »
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP LADS
now we're flying
flipper and pole all the way

Chris B

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Re: help me please
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 08:15:21 pm »
You have mail Simon

Re: help me please
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 07:36:20 am »
Hi Simon,

Breaking into commercial work I found easier and more regular than residential. I to have a company that deals in Commercial cleaning including commercial window cleaning. The majority of the work is commercial, but I would advise to keep some residential window work.

Depending on your adverts, you must state all types of commercial office cleaning undertaken.

I am not familiar with the area of Wiltshire. Different areas see an advert work better in different places. I can honestly say the Yellow pages is great for us. However I have heard many say its rubbish and does not work. We track all our adverts so we know what works here and what does not. We have wasted money in the past on advertising. Thats why we find out exactly where they have seen our advert and beleive me we thought many had seen our advert in Thompson when in fact it was YELLOW PAGES.

Dont give up it wont happen over night. Canvass local businesses and the best we have found is cold call a list of companies. If they say no, just try to find out when its up for renewal keep a database, and then keep track and call back a month prior there contract runs out.

As for radio advertising yes you would think it works but research your market. Do many offices have the radio on.  I would say No. But factories do. But the person that would organise the cleaning.. normally the facilities manager, but not always.. probably wont be listening to the radio.

Internet.. the majority look here. Google or yahoo. If you are not at the first page then you wont get much responce at all so do some SEO Search Engine Optimisation or pay a company to do it for you. You will get results.

Are you a ltd company? I know this is a touchy subject with most people. And I am not saying thast anyone that does not have a Ltd company is not professional. However you may find that being a Ltd company and VAT registered will help you gain commercial work. We found it Boosted us. They then see you a professional company not just as a one man band.

if you want any other help I am willing to discuss this with you further. Just let me know and I will send you an email with my details like email etc.

I dont display my mail simply because I do not want lots of spam emails.

What you must realise is what ever guidence anyone gives you just because it works for them or myself even does not mean it will work for you. At the end of they day if you have a quotation, they have to like you. They have to like what you can offer them or at least appears that you can offer an answer to the problems.

Price Yes another touchy subject... you will find that people will moan, winge, just because you have gone in at a low price. Or a lower price than a competitor. Consider what you can manage on.. a price per hour. plus the cost of material and wages etc then a profit that you think is reasonable or are willing to except the job for. Obvious varying factors like the number of hours the client is asking for.. the lower the hourly rate can be.. in some cases not all.

Remember Price is an extremely important part. Why would they have your services for £12.50 p.h when OCS or any competitor can offer the same service if not better for £9.50 p.h. even £8.50p.h

Now you will get replies like how can you earn out o £9.50 p.h you have wages, NI, EL, PL blah blah.

Well its a numbers game. And if they cant earn out of it at such a low price then their stategy is incorrect and needs addressing. Perhaps they should have not booked that holiday, purchased a new car or leaped out to buy a WFP system too soon.

All the best

Dave

simon smith50

  • Posts: 198
Re: help me please
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 10:43:06 am »
thanks dave
wow lots to take in
now we're flying
flipper and pole all the way