[s.w.c]

a 5cell maglite is good torch also a thick pair of rugby socks in the door card come in handy and last tip a American pool ball in the glove box

[s.w.c]

no your right, but why should he become a victim he has prob got a mrs and kids waiting for him at home, many years ago there was some bad things going on and it only take some brain dead idiot to start,

[d s windowcleaning]

Is that £600 a month or a year Dave? I think there is some kinda lesson to be learned here for anyone "buying" a round. It in no way gurantees the work you buy will last a month,2 months, a year.......I can see both sides to this coin though,altough this fella does sound like the kinda bloke ya don't wanna get on the wrong side of. or have him doin ya windows,come to that. Tricky one this...........jack in doin ya friends n family's houses or bite the bullet........have a pleasant word in his shell and hope for the best.

its £600 per month mate , if tony macmac came on he would tell you athersley is a really big area im born and bred there and know just about everyone .
if i really wanted i could pick up all or as many houses as i wanted but ive stuck to family and really close friends .

Yeah it's big with loads of compact housing estates.

It's a tough one Dave, at least it's your area so that should give you some feeling of security, where are these guys from?
If you feel realy threatened you could always buy a baseball bat (argos/sports shop) & keep it in the van. I had to do this once (long time ago) BUT make sure you buy a baseball too to keep with it, this way it's classed as sporting equipment (as you now play baseball) & not an offensive weapon!

Tony

these guys are from sheffield mate , they do a lot of houses in athersley but theyve allso lost a lot , not just to me but to others as well .
the guy who bought the round is supposed to be a bit of a headcase , it says something when he kicked the bottom of a ladder with someone up it causing him to come off .

[Sir Squeaky]

I'm so glad I don't live in those areas.

If I were you Dave, I'd change your day, and get a mate a to come around in the van with you.
You don't need hassle at work do you?

[jade.l]

wait til he's up a ladder and kick it haha ( im sorry im bad)!
question him back.
play dumb like you dont know who he is etc.
offer him advice.
oh my god i didnt realize window cleaning was so bitchy haha.
here go to expertvillage and type in self defence or something.. watch and learn haha.
im sorry,im not helping am i... i'll shush now

[s.w.c]

simply fill a squeeze bottle full of petrol, squirt it in his face stand back a bit light a fAg hold your lighter up and smile, second thoughts don't follow that one stick to the house brick trick
but seriously play it by ear just keep your eyes peeled it may come to nothing, well i hope it works out ok

[Pole 2 Pole]

Blimey............Dave aint posted on this since this morning. Hope he aint been duffed up  Talk to us Dave...........we're worried now 

[AuRavelling79]

simply fill a squeeze bottle full of petrol, squirt it in his face stand back a bit light a f*g hold your lighter up and smile, second thoughts don't follow that one stick to the house brick trick
but seriously play it by ear just keep your eyes peeled it may come to nothing, well i hope it works out ok

Note to self: - never, ever get on the wrong side of SWC! 

[s.w.c]

im nice really 

[Pole 2 Pole]

It's true Malc.....SWC really is a lovely guy...........The last time i said otherwise, he corrected me...very comprehensively 

[s.w.c]

i am nice and help anyone love my Mrs and kids, but after all these years dealing with violence i learnt to deal with it in return with extreme prejudice , its amazing all those years of it why i carryed on but you get use to it, people would try following you home, you would be out shopping in the towns it seem to be every where, we didn't win any popularity contest i know but it was our job simply a job not personal. I'm long retired from it, but still know how to deal with it, i like the simple life if it be known, but it don't make me a bad person just different from others.

[trike]

my pennies worth,if it was going to kick off he wouild have told you there and then,why ask you quistions then do it,that doesnt make sence,to be on the safe side,take someone with you for a while if you can.

when he was asking me the questions mate he was on is own collecting but normally theres 4 of them , a few years ago this same guy kicked the bottom of another cleaners ladders while he was up it ( at least i dont use a ladder ) hes  thrown a tin of paint over a car that belonged the lad he knocked of the ladder . it just shows what he will get up to . see the round he dos he bought it for £4000 and he lost a lot of the work im doing houses he bought but they are my family and friends , they didnt like this guy but they gave him a chance when he started he started losing them and i was picking them up , ive got about £600 worth of the work he bought and he aint happy .

o i thourght he was just a guy asking you,i didnt realise he worked on same patch,its his fault hes lost them,but what you say hes not a nice guy to come across,id still carry on but thats me

[d s windowcleaning]

Blimey............Dave aint posted on this since this morning. Hope he aint been duffed up  Talk to us Dave...........we're worried now 

im still here mate im not back in that area until the end of the week .

[trike]

lets not argue lets reflect on what pole 2 pole said , how would you feel if you bought a round and lost £600 worth of work .

im paying off a round now,will be mine in october,but if someone came in and started doing my custies,its up to them who they want there windows cleaned by,if there not happy with me they might want someone else,what would i do,nothing if ive lost my custies thats my fault,know if he goes round undercutting thats a different ball game i wouild kick his arss.

[d s windowcleaning]

my pennies worth,if it was going to kick off he wouild have told you there and then,why ask you quistions then do it,that doesnt make sence,to be on the safe side,take someone with you for a while if you can.

when he was asking me the questions mate he was on is own collecting but normally theres 4 of them , a few years ago this same guy kicked the bottom of another cleaners ladders while he was up it ( at least i dont use a ladder ) hes  thrown a tin of paint over a car that belonged the lad he knocked of the ladder . it just shows what he will get up to . see the round he dos he bought it for £4000 and he lost a lot of the work im doing houses he bought but they are my family and friends , they didnt like this guy but they gave him a chance when he started he started losing them and i was picking them up , ive got about £600 worth of the work he bought and he aint happy .

o i thourght he was just a guy asking you,i didnt realise he worked on same patch,its his fault hes lost them,but what you say hes not a nice guy to come across,id still carry on but thats me

i will still carry on and keep alert while in the area .

[d s windowcleaning]

lets not argue lets reflect on what pole 2 pole said , how would you feel if you bought a round and lost £600 worth of work .

im paying off a round now,will be mine in october,but if someone came in and started doing my custies,its up to them who they want there windows cleaned by,if there not happy with me they might want someone else,what would i do,nothing if ive lost my custies thats my fault,know if he goes round undercutting thats a different ball game i wouild kick his arss.

thats 1 thing ive not done mate undercut him its just he isnt liked .

[s.w.c]

i turned up to do some flats today Ive been doing these for years, i found a new window cleaner there cleaning a couple of the ones i don't do, i pulled up and said morning then got my gear out and carried on with my work, i must have canvased them recently but who cares there is room for everyone, good luck to him, there was no complaints of anyone trying to under cut me, so I'm not bothered, good luck to him, if he had gone around trying to under cut me then i find this unfriendly, i wont tolerate under gutting its wrong way, i personally don't go out door knocking or canvasing, i rely on recommendation these days, but way back when i did can-verse i never used those under cutting tactic i just dropped of flyer's and business cards through the doors and waited for the calls,

[weetot]

Just knock im out!! and he'll not be back.

[elite mike]

I'm so glad I don't live in those areas.

If I were you Dave, I'd change your day, and get a mate a to come around in the van with you.
You don't need hassle at work do you?

we all love each other here dave

and if any one crosses us we kill them

[s.w.c]

the a-team sod them its the cleanitup, team who's van is being used then