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paul saunders

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WFP users
« on: January 24, 2009, 02:49:27 pm »
Been taliking to a WFP user today and he told me what his hourly running costs were. To say I was gobsmacked is an understatement.  :o
Can I ask you what your hourly running costs are.
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

Dean Taberner

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2009, 03:05:47 pm »
Not much,

Just the set up cost and then the price of resin and filters every 2 months.

Dean
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 03:06:36 pm »
They may be higher than the running costs of a traditional window cleaner but their takings should be much higher too, far more than the difference in running costs anyway.

It costs more, it takes time to maintain, it takes time each evening to fill and maybe recharge batteries but I'll tell you this, I wouldn't go back to ladders, mops and squeegies, ever.

Any window cleaner who wishes to keep up and overtake the competition MUST invest in WFP; and in the words of Rafa Benitez, that's a fact  ;)
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

NWH

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 08:11:17 pm »
Been taliking to a WFP user today and he told me what his hourly running costs were. To say I was gobsmacked is an understatement.  :o
Can I ask you what your hourly running costs are.
What did he tell you then.

Re: WFP users
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2009, 08:13:28 pm »
That NWH is a cowboy   ;D

NWH

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2009, 08:34:25 pm »
YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa lol. ;D   

wightsurf

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2009, 08:39:39 pm »
I think it's all down to how far you want to go  with window cleaning.
I started out with the basics but now i find myself investing in more and more all the time.
The more i can offer compared to others i think puts me ahead of the game.
I Hope  ;D

brett walker

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2009, 09:16:34 pm »
Once youve got the initial start up costs for wfp paid for its just a matter of paying for resin and filters etc, which in my opinion are very low because of the amount i can earn with wfp

i fine i invest in quality poles and brushes etc to enable me to work faster and with better results its all down to as much as you want to spend, it can coat you as little as £5oo diy or the ionics 2 million ;D

bbdl im just down the road from you if i can help you with wfp in any way give me an email mate

regards

Brett

Re: WFP users
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2009, 09:51:05 pm »
           YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa lol. ;D   



Re: WFP users
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2009, 09:53:35 pm »
you never buy new poles then? or fuel for a hot system? or pay any water bills? or replace varistreams, or upgrade to a larger tank, or need a new 100m of minibore because it wore out?

How long have you been going? a week, or a fortnight?

I factor in £2 a job, and i probably average thirteen jobs a day. So a ten pound job for me, achieves the same as a trad man doing it for eight. If his price is also ten then he has made more money than me, but i will be faster of course.

macmac

Re: WFP users
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2009, 10:05:43 pm »
Been taliking to a WFP user today and he told me what his hourly running costs were. To say I was gobsmacked is an understatement.  :o
Can I ask you what your hourly running costs are.

It depends on many factors like-

Did he diy or shop at ionics?

Did he buy a good s/hand van for 3500 or spend 12k on a new one?

Is his system RO or DI only & is he aware of the most economical filtering methods that would apply to his situation?

                    To name a few

Also-

Is he trying to scare you off wfp to keep his competition limited? ;)

Tony

Re: WFP users
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2009, 10:20:06 pm »
Try operating without them see how much you earn then.

macmac

Re: WFP users
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2009, 10:22:20 pm »
Vehicles and systems are capital expenditure

There not running or operational cost.


You don't say ::), WOW, you're cleverer than I first thought  :o

The only way this guy can have huge hourley running costs is by including the above examples!

NWH

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2009, 10:22:55 pm »
Try operating without them see how much you earn then.
WFP if used properly will give your business a massive increase in profit compared to Trad.

Re: WFP users
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2009, 10:24:02 pm »
I know  ???

paul saunders

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2009, 10:28:01 pm »
Been taliking to a WFP user today and he told me what his hourly running costs were. To say I was gobsmacked is an understatement.  :o
Can I ask you what your hourly running costs are.
What did he tell you then.
£10, per hour


bbdl im just down the road from you if i can help you with wfp in any way give me an email mate

regards

Brett
Cheers Brett, I'll keep that in mind ;)
Been taliking to a WFP user today and he told me what his hourly running costs were. To say I was gobsmacked is an understatement.  :o
Can I ask you what your hourly running costs are.

It depends on many factors like-

Did he diy or shop at ionics?
Bought his system .......... but I don't know what it is

Did he buy a good s/hand van for 3500 or spend 12k on a new one?
He is leasing his van

Is his system RO or DI only & is he aware of the most economical filtering methods that would apply to his situation?
He as been WFP for a good few years so I would imagine that he knows what he is doing by now. ;)

                    To name a few

Also-

Is he trying to scare you off wfp to keep his competition limited? ;)
No, I know him well, he would not do that .............. he's a good person.

Tony
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

Re: WFP users
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2009, 10:36:28 pm »
Ewan, that isnt what he asked.

luther1

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2009, 10:41:42 pm »
What about ladders, scrims,rubber,fairy liquid,t-bars,sleeves etc etc,this all adds up too.
Wfp running costs aren't that bad.Profits are higher,safer and can clean in worse weather conditions! Just my opinion!

Re: WFP users
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2009, 10:43:10 pm »
Stick to the topic, whatever you think, otherwise you know exactly how those threads go that you participate in.

luther1

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Re: WFP users
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2009, 10:47:31 pm »
I dread to think what my hourly running costs are! Would probably realise that £5 houses are a waste of time!