[clinton]

Derek

My mum said that to me when i saw her today,justthought id get some out as there sat in one of the spare bedrooms,aint going to put any more out till as you said feb and march

[Jim_77]

Derek (and anyone else) - I had 20 minutes to kill after a job on 19th November.  I grabbed a handful of the leaflets I carry with me and literally only walked up one side of a street and down the other back to my van.

Two months later to the day, I get a call from one of them... my 20 minutes gentle stroll has landed me a job worth at least £140.

My point is not that I'm the luckiest sod out there, or that my leaflets are any betyter than anyone else's.  I doubt that :

The point is, you just don't know who is keeping hold of them.  Decorating work, builders in at the moment, etc etc, all these things make people delay ringing you.  Just not gettign round to it accounts for a lot, I'd have thought!

Keep putting the leaflets out through the doors of the houses you most want to work in.  It isn't an instant response game.

Derek, I remember at the start of your marketing journey last year you stated you wanted to get your name out there, regardless of how many responses you got, you wanted to keep hitting people with your marketing to imprint your name on their minds.  Putting off any more leaflet deliveries till February is undermining that theory!

Get out there, any day it's not raining and you're sat on your backside is a missed opportunity!!

Stick to the plan, is all I'm saying, just as a bit of friendly advice 

[derek west]

good advice too jim,
just didn't realise it would be this hard to get motivated in january, especially with the wife still bad.
but your right, no excuses, i need a kick up the ass, and thats what youve just done, well! a tap, can i have some more please, kicks only though.
derek

[Ryan Smyth]

defo good advice Jim,im afraid iv been suffering from new year laziness too.I have aload of leaflets printed and all still at the printers and i havnt even bothered to pick them up : As you say you never know who is holding on to them and they will phone you at their convenience not yours unfortunately

Ryan

[clinton]

Jim,

Same here am lazy when it comes to them but now ihave some going out i might start doing other areas now 

Want new clients now as most of my work comes from rec and repeats

[derek west]

advert goes out friday for a leafleter, lets see what riff raff it attracts, anyone got any interwiew techniques to weed out the numpty heads?
never interviewed anyone in my life.
derek

[clinton]

Derek

Can you not find someone who knows your familly etc to do the drop

[derek west]

no clinton, not got much family,
derek

[clinton]

Derek

Least you might be able to get someone reliable and there are some people out there still who we can trust. 

[Jim Gibbard]

I have always found that people working in pairs is best.  Young mums can put in a few hours per day ( a few hours of leaflets is enough for anyone ) schoolkids - teenagers, when the nights are lighter, someone who is desperate for the money - I've a feeling there might be a few about this year.  Whatever, they must be reliable.  Check up on them by knocking a few doors on the roads they were supposed to do.  Advertise in local shops, not papers, never done well from those.

Jim G

[Jim Gibbard]

has any one used these guys?
http://www.mailboxnationwide.com/?gclid=CNPCpc3sjpgCFQoh3godnR6kDA
gave them a ring and from a brief conversation they are £40 a 1000

from our attempts at delivering yesterday thats very cheap as 1000 takes the best part of a day, 1 man, and lets face it, 2 men can't make it "averagely" quicker, so how does the company make money.
i'm so sceptical sometimes.
i know, just go for it and see what it returns.
anyway
has anyone used them and have you got any other website that i can contact?
derek

Derek,
How do they make it pay? 
You will probably find that they are delivering not just 1 leaflet, but 4,5 or more.  So, If it's 5 say, that's £200 per thousand.  They would take approx. 6 hours to deliver by 1 person, paid say £6 per hour = £36  .  £36 from £200 leaves a gross profit of £164 per thousand leaflets.  Unfortunately, your leaflet is now 1 of 5 and a lot of people would just pick up the bunch and bin them all.

If I was paying £40 per thousand, I would rather sort out my own leafleters and have mine delivered on it's own.  That way, I think it has more chance of being read.

Jim G

[clinton]

That is a bit too many i think 

As jim said and like me when we get so many through the door they usually go in the recycling bag.

There again knowing mr west he might have a go

Cheers clinton

[Lavinia]

The only advice I can give is don't use royal mail, I have been using them for some years now. when I started it was about £30 per 1k delivered. Used to get a good responce so just carried on doing it. I was looking over our figures and its now £55 per 1k and the responces are getting worse as no one has any money. the thing is with royal mail you are tyed in for a year so if things go bad you cannt cancel. this mounth we have to pay £400 and i recon if i get £800 work out of it i would have done well. When our contract is up (if i'm still going) I will start to hand deliver before and after jobs with my i-pod. Who ever you pay to deliver you fliers you can never garentte that they all get done.

[Mike Osbourne]

I'm thinking of doing RM in selected postcodes.

What are other people experiences with them good or bad and what is the actual min commitment costs wise.

[derek west]

i think its £500 quid mike, £36 per thou for first 6 months.
derek

[clinton]

Derek

Thanks passing that job on to me

Did you get a leaflet distributer

[Mike Halliday]

do you have to pay the RM up front or do they invoice you? and do they provide a written contract on what they are going to do.

RM are a big legitimate company I would think they are quite trustworthy,

I think I would trust RM to post any lealfets

[Mike Osbourne]

The thing is, if I did it I'd make damn sure they are getting delivered and if I can show they haven't been the RM can't shrug their shoulders. But these smaller firms are a law unto themselves.

In Lavinas case sounds like either the general response is down or maybe they haven't been delivered, but you weren't on the ball, which I guess is natural after a while and you can't complain weeks after the event.

[davep]

I have mentioned several times that RM don't deliver all the leaflets.  Ask your own Postie in the morning how many get returned to be incinerated at the depot.

I was a Postie for 13 years working in an office with 50 others, I would say at least 12 of them did not deliver them, just got left until they built up, then the boss would trolley them off! 

[Mike Osbourne]

Dave I'm sure that's the case and I guess these big firms just do 50k at a time and never know cos they don't check and they don't use DM leaflets.

What if a customer was kicking off and they were ordered to resend them, would that happen or would they still go in the skip. Some must get through, certainly does to me. :