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colin fitch

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Leather question for Roger Koh.
« on: January 05, 2009, 12:07:49 pm »
Hi Roger,

Would you guide me through a resoration clean to a pair of Timberland boots[2 years old approx]

Using my present kit [ccdo Leather Doctor Kit]

Regards

Colin.

derek west

Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 12:10:35 pm »
colin
either youve only got one leg or you hop alot. ;D
derek

ps... apologies in advance if you do only have one leg :-[

colin fitch

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 02:41:56 pm »
Derek,
Neither but that make me  ;D

Boots from two seperate pairs ;D

Roger Koh

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Re: How to Clean Nubuck with the Leather Doctor CCDO Leather Kit?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 07:48:10 pm »



This is the kit that you have.

Boot Inspection:

Dye Stains: The blue stains on the upper boot are associated with blue jean dye transfer that need to be soaked with spotter4.0™ (aka d’Oil4.4™).

Unknown Stains: What are those brown stains (tannin, protein, carbohydrates, sugar) any clue?

Creases: Comparing with the new, the old boot has creases (indicating structure collapse, looses its suppleness as the fatliquor diminishes) hydrating and fatliquoring with stretching immediately after fatliquor5.0™ will minimize the crease.

Color: The old boot has lost its color richness - hydrating and fatliquoring will improve the color richness too to a degree.




Cleaning Procedure Steps for your Nubuck Timberland Boots is as follows:

Step 1: Dry Soil Removal - use the suedeBrush3™ (brass) at an angle and brush off the dried -up stains.
This suede brush is sharp (beware if it scratches the nubuck) otherwise use the nubuckBrush2™ (nylon).
What you do not have it here is the nubuckEraser5™ which is the perfect eraser for the dried soil stain (remove stains safely without scratches).

Step 2: Stain Removal - Use spotter4.0™ (aka d’Oil4.4™) and spot on those stains areas agitate and let dwell 30 minutes.

Step 3: Restoration Cleaning - Use ultraCleaner4.5™ (discontinue and replace by d’Grease4.9™) spray the entire boot and work it over with either brushes avoiding scratches extract if possible and left remaining to dwell for another 30 minutes.

Step 4: General Cleaning - Use cleaner3.8™ sprays and agitates with either brush then extract sticky residue until towel shows clean.

Step 5: Acidify Rinse - Use rinse3.0™ spray and agitate with either brush then extract until towel shows clean.

Step 6: Leather Structure Conditioning (replenishing fatliquor for softness and strength) -
While the leather is still damp after extraction spray and brush in fatliquor5.0™ evenly into the leather structure.
And put seal it in a plastic bag for 4 hours or overnight to allow polar water motion within the leather structure.

Step 7: Remove the plastic wrapping and allow for slow natural drying to allow foreign colloid (soil particulate) to wick up to the leather surface.

Step 8: The last stage of the drying process can be accelerated either by dehumidifying, blower or dryer.

Step 9: When penetrated soil particulate has accumulated at the surface fully dried, use either brush to erase the surface soil away as Step 1.

Step 10: Inspection - especially on the stain and heavily soil areas - repeat accordingly as necessary.

Step 11: Leather Surface non-stick Conditioning - A very light mist spray of leatherScent’B™ avoiding spits and patchiness and can be fast dry if you wish thereafter brush again for a “finger  writing effect” (leatherScent’S™ would be the perfect choice for nubuck upholstery and garment where the silky feel is much appreciated than the buttery feel).

Take some picture through the step and show us your progress.

We can re-evaluate from there.

We will see how on-line training without travelling great distances can become our new found learning option!

Any questions before you start?

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®



Products information:

d’Oil4.4™ specialty leather cleaner pH value 4.4 is a water-based paint, grease, oil, ink and blue jean dye transfer leather-safe stain remover.
Also used as a prep cleaner prior to refinishing.
To: Penetrate, lubricate and suspense oil and grease based stain allowing sufficient dwell time for soil deflocculation to occur before extraction.
For: All absorbent leathers - aniline, pure-aniline, vegetable-tanned, nubuck and suede or woolskin.
Instruction:
1. To identify; inspect; dry soil removal, bleeding test with product and tackiness test with water.
2. To rectify bleeding or tackiness - use acidifier2.0™ to control bleeding or rectify tackiness to a healthy squeaky feel prior to cleaning.
3. To apply onto stain and allow at least 30 minutes dwell time for complete stain deflocculation to occur.
4. To use as a prep cleaner for absorbent leathers - let dwell at least 30 minutes then scrub with anilineEraser4™.
5. To extract suspended soil before it dries - use absorbent towel until towel shows clean.
6. To remove sticky residue - use clean3.8™.
7. To acidify rinse until towel shows clean - use rinse3.0™.
8. To hydrate dried leathers - use relaxer3.3™.
9. To soften and strengthen leather structure - use fatliquor5.0™.
10. To impart a non-stick sensuous surface feel with a classic leather scent - use leatherScent’B™, D, S or W.


d’Grease4.9™ concentrate - shake well and mix with 21 parts distilled water before use.
Ready-to-use specialty leather cleaner pH value 4.9 is a water-based leather-safe degreaser.
To: Degrease oil and grease leather stains from skin or hair contact.
For: All leathers - aniline, pure-aniline, semi-aniline, vegetable-tanned, pigmented, bicast, nubuck and suede or wool and fur.
Instruction:
1. To identify; inspect; dry soil removal, bleeding test with product and tackiness test with water.
2. To rectify bleeding or tackiness - use acidifier2.0™ to control bleeding or rectify tackiness to a healthy squeaky feel prior to cleaning.
3. To remove stubborn oil - use d’Oil4.4™ for absorbent leathers or d’Ink7.7™ for non-absorbent leathers.
4. To remove hydrolyzed and oxidized yellowing effect - use d’Yellow6.7™.
5. To shake well, spray and agitate with leatherBrush1™, nubuckBrush2™ or suedeBrush3™.
6. To let dwell 5 to 30 minutes before it dries for complete soil deflocculation to occur.
7. To extract - use dry absorbent towel.
8. To remove sticky residues - use clean3.8™.
9. To acidify rinse until towel shows clean - use rinse3.0™.
10. To hydrate dried leather structure - use relaxer3.3™.
11. To soften and strengthen leather structure - use fatliquor5.0™.
12. To replenish and revive pull-up effect - use either oilEffect63™ or waxEffect95™.
13. To impart a non-stick sensuous surface feel with a classic leather scent - use leatherScent’B™, D, S or W.


clean3.8™ concentrate - shake well and mix with 64 parts distilled water before use.
Ready-to-use leather cleaner pH value 3.8 is a water-based general purpose leather-safe cleaner.
To: Penetrate, lubricate and suspense soiling safely and effectively through chemical reaction in harmony with all leather constituents.
For: All leathers - aniline, pure-aniline, semi-aniline, vegetable-tanned, pigmented, bicast, nubuck, suede and all fabric except rayon or silk.
Instruction:
1. To identify, inspect, dry soil removal, bleeding test, wet-rub test prior to application.
2. To test for tackiness or sliminess by finger wet rubbing with water - use acidifier2.0™ to rectify to a squeaky feel prior to cleaning.
3. To remove extreme soil, grease or oil - use d’Ink7.7™, d’Oil4.4™, d’Grease4.9™ or preClean4.3™ prior to clean3.8™.
4. To shake well, spray evenly and agitate with matching leatherBrush1™, nubuckBrush2™ or suedeBrush3™.
5. To extract suspended soil - use dry absorbent towel.
6. To acidify rinse until towel shows clean - use rinse3.0™.
7. To hydrate dried leather structures - use relaxer3.3™.
8. To soften and strengthen leather structure - use fatliquor5.0™.
9. To replenish and revive pull-up effect - use either oilEffect63™ or waxEffect95™.
10. To impart a non-stick sensuous surface feel with a classic leather scent - use leatherScent’B™, D, S or W.


rinse3.0™ concentrate - shake well and mix with 80 parts distilled water before use.
Ready-to-use specialty leather cleaner pH value 3.0 is a water-based leather-safe acidifier rinse.
For: All leathers - aniline, pure-aniline, semi-aniline, vegetable-tanned, pigmented, bicast, nubuck, suede and all fabric except rayon or silk.
To: Neutralize harmful alkaline and perspiration residues.
Stabilize and strengthen leather constituent pH chemistry integrity.
Acidify - cationized (+ve) charge protein fiber below its iso-electric point to increase hydrogen bonding power prior to anionic (-ve) fatliquor5.0™.
Instruction:
1. To shake well, spray evenly and agitate with leatherBrush1™, nubuckBrush2™ or suedeBrush3™.
2. To extract suspended soil with dry absorbent towel until towel shows clean.
3. To hydrate dried leathers to facilitate colloidal water movement for hydrogen bonding or capillary motion - use relaxer3.3™.
4. To soften and strengthen leather - use fatliquor5.0™.
5. To replenish and revive pull-up leathers - use oilEffect63™ or waxEffect95™.
6. To impart a sensuous non-stick surface feel with a classic leather scent - use leatherScent’B™, D, S or W.


fatliquor5.0™ concentrate - warm bottle, shake well and mix with 5 parts distilled water before use.
Ready-to-use specialty leather conditioner pH value ±5.0 is an anionic (-ve) charged micro emulsion fatliquor leather conditioner.
For: All leathers - aniline, pure-aniline, semi-aniline, vegetable-tanned, pigmented, nubuck and suede including hair-on and woolskin.
To: Replenish the original fatliquor that diminishes through ageing or cleaning.
Effectively soften the leather structure and enhance its rip resistance tensile strength.
Relax coarse breaks, creases and wrinkles thus provide drapes, suppleness and prevent cracking.
Help to keep leather at its optimum physical performance and prevent premature ageing.
Instruction:
1. To hydrate dried leather structures evenly - use relaxer3.3™.
2. To shake well, spray and brush evenly onto moist absorbent and semi-absorbent surface saturating it to avoid surface patchiness.
3. To accelerate structure penetration - is by the reverse side, micro cracks, needle holes or perforations on non-absorbent leathers.
4. To eliminate coarse breaks and creases for light garment and fashion gloves - stretching it while hydrated.
5. To achieve extra softness natural slow drying is preferred.
6. To get the leather as soft as you wish - flexing, staking or stretching it sufficiently when dry.
7. To replenish and revive pull-up leathers - use oilEffect63™ or waxEffect95™.
8. To impart a non-stick sensuous surface feel with a classic leather scent - use leatherScent’B™, D, S or W.


leatherScent’B
™ concentrate - warm bottle, shake well and mix with 9½ parts distilled water before use.
Ready-to-use specialty leather conditioner is a non film-forming surface conditioner to enhance a soft natural buttery feel with a classic leather scent.
For: Aniline, pigmented, simulated or oil pull-up nubuck.
To: Impart a non-stick surface essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling.
Increase leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce scuff or abrasion.
Reduce squeaks when leather rubs against leather during movement.
Instruction:
1. To identify, inspect and dry soil removal before application.
2. To shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3. To spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.

colin fitch

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 09:16:55 pm »
Hi Roger,

Thanks for the procedure.

Unknown stains? [i do not know,boots have been worn outside to and from work for 2 years approx]

Iwill post pictures of my progress.

Colin

robert meldrum

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 09:34:02 pm »
Colin

Why are you bothering, or is it just an exercise ?

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 09:44:48 pm »
I did my wife's UGG boots in the summer with the kit and had really good results but now after the winter wet I don't think I'll get the same reults I may have a dabble at the weekend could get much needed brownie points also.

Shaun

Ricky M

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2009, 10:40:20 pm »
Rodger where can I buy that kit ?  ASAP ?
 
Ricky
www.ability1975.co.uk
                          www.carpetcleaninguttoxeter.co.uk  
              NCCA !? but why have non of my clients herd of them ??

Roger Koh

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 10:56:27 pm »
Get in directly from me, until such time...

Roger Koh
info@leatherdoctor.org

Andy Foster

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 12:10:57 am »
What is the approximate cost and time to do this repair Roger?
Just wondering how economical it is compared with simply buying a new pair.

Thanks

Andy

Roger Koh

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Re: “I will prepare and some day my chance will come".
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 02:11:38 am »
Andy,

Who knows, you may be right “cheaper with simply buying a new pair".

Colin has 2 pairs of the same kind and he only has two legs, I guess it must be cheaper to buy a pair than restoring it.

But he may be inspired by Abraham Lincoln who say “I will prepare and some day my chance will come".

In this downturn of the economy it may be a prudence season to Practice! Practice! Practice! and upgrade our skills.

This is investment training (cheapest on-line you can get, thanks to CIU for the privileges).


And if we can’t clean our own nubuck boots with satisfaction then it’s pointless to ever thinking of providing leather services for nubuck.

Be it a $3500.00 Brunello Cucinelli® nubuck leather jacket or an interior of a private aircraft when opportunities arise.

If we can do it well and master the Cleaning and Restoration of Nubuck in Principle and Practice, the phone may not stop ringing if we know how, when and who we need to contact in our marketing area.

Besides, our direct customer we also have the retail outlets to impress - that they may refer a customer or two our direction.

In this economical downturn only the rich can continue to spend, they don’t imitate like birds “cheap, cheap, cheap”.

Nubuck is the high-end of all luxurious leather - be it a boot, furniture or a garment!

Preparedness is also taught in Mathew 25: 1-13 (KJV) - The parable of the ten virgins.

Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®

Jim_77

Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 02:19:13 am »
The parable of 10 virgins... sounds like a Saturday night out in my town :D

Ricky M

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 07:27:14 am »
Jim , What, 10 virgins in a town center all on the same night !!

you posted that really late on so you most be dreaming.

Ricky
www.ability1975.co.uk
                          www.carpetcleaninguttoxeter.co.uk  
              NCCA !? but why have non of my clients herd of them ??

Andy Foster

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 08:39:36 am »
Boy!


I only wanted to know how much and how long!

robert meldrum

  • Posts: 1984
Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 09:07:22 am »
Obviously it's a non starter in terms of time and cost, but the exercise could be valuable ! I just wondered what the motive was behind the post !

colin fitch

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2009, 09:40:18 am »
Robert,

Just an exercise

pete sween

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2009, 10:02:10 am »
Hi Colin

I used the method and Rogers Kit to clean my wifes and kids timberlands and the results were very good. After a few times of doing it I noticed that (depending on condition) you can cut down on procedure and still get good results with Rogers stuff

Pete

colin fitch

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2009, 07:26:07 pm »
Hi Pete,

Thanks for the feedback.

I will try out Rogers procedure,when i have spare time.
bit busy at moment with rugs.

colin.

Roger Koh

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2009, 07:04:33 pm »
Hi Roger,
 
I have carried out steps 1 and 2, what do you think? can i move on?


Yes! It looks like the soiling has improved.
And before you move on.
You may want to improve the shape of the shoe by inserting a shoe stretcher, a bag of sand, etc until after step 11.
 

also what does spotter 4[aka d oil 4.4 mean?

That is the little bottle other than ink7.7™ (aka = also known as)


Regards. Colin



colin fitch

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Re: Leather question for Roger Koh.
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2009, 05:47:35 pm »
This is the boot after steps 3 and 4 have been carried out.
You can see the compacted soil coming to the surface .

Its only an exercise[not cost effective ;D