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Sir Squeaky

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Total freeze-up!
« on: January 04, 2009, 02:21:25 pm »
Just looked in the van and it's totally solid right through the entire system.
Guess that's what happens after 5 days, rather than it being thawed each day. :-\

Even the half full tank (about 200-250 litres) is frozen! :o
Squeegee and washer are solid in the bucket.
Brush is attached to the drip tray it's in.

Better try thaw it today, otherwise I've got no chance in the morning!  :-\

My advice of you've been off for a bit...have a look now before it's too late!

Clean Rite

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 02:31:15 pm »
Same here mate, any ideas??

matt

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2009, 02:33:07 pm »
you need to thaw it with a heater

BUT

do it slowely, a low heat

Tosh

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 02:37:46 pm »
Trying to defrost a 200-250 litre ice cube in a van isn't going to be easy.

Can you boil some kettle fulls of pure water and pour them into the tank?

williamx

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 02:41:15 pm »
I think the kettle might push up the tds, try filling up though your di bottle with hot water from the tap

East coast window cleaning Services

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 02:42:39 pm »
went out to mine this morning the whole thing is frozen pumps lines di etc. just put the oil filled rad in and hope for the best.
P&R Window Cleaning

Tosh

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 02:46:04 pm »
I think the kettle might push up the tds,

I'm pretty sure this doesn't happen.  Ian Giles did an experiment with an electrical element some time ago and it didn't effect the TDS. 

Of course you could get a few limescale particles in the water, but if you rinse the kettle first, the few you may get in your pure water would probably be negligible.

In my opinion only.

Ian_Giles

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 03:02:45 pm »
I'm lucky enough that I can trail an extension cable out to the van and leave batteries and so on charging overnight, also able to but in a fan heater with A frost stat setting, so the equipment and water in the back doesn't freeze up.

And when the water freezes on pavements and so on, before starting I sprinkle some road salt very sparsely around where I am going to work, you don't need great clumps of the stuff strewn around, it works fine...mind you, saw Squeaky in town the other day and he was trying to do is best to make himself slip over on the gravel!

But even when you can counter the water freezing on the ground, it's countering the water freezing in the nozzles or jets and then on the pole itself or the bristles of the brush!!!!

So I am now considering getting some of that...er...whats it called? Ethenol?? The pure commercial alcohol stuff that is often talked about on here.

But where to get it from??

And does anyone use it?

Is it effective?

Does it stop water freezing on the ground?

Need to do something I think because if the currently weather trend continues I need to find a way to continue working without having to go back to ladders!!

Going to have to plan for a hot water system methinks, but still have to counter water freezing on the ground....


Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Tosh

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 03:16:29 pm »
...mind you, saw Squeaky in town the other day and he was trying to do is best to make himself slip over on the gravel!

Ian

 ;D  What rhymes with bell end?

(There's history to the above quote ;)).

williamx

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 03:19:30 pm »
I worked the other week and the water froze solid on the pole, while I was working, it was a bugger to close.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 03:30:07 pm »
Lets face it.
Going to get sod all work done for a week or two, just before a tax bill. ::)

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 03:30:59 pm »
...mind you, saw Squeaky in town the other day and he was trying to do is best to make himself slip over on the gravel!

Ian

 ;D  What rhymes with bell end?

(There's history to the above quote ;)).
What rhymes with bellend?
Don't know, but it should be "Tosh".
What you on about now brainstrain?

tomy jackson

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 03:38:58 pm »
it will only be eftive donw to -3

johnny_h

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 04:01:40 pm »
just got my freedom trolly out the garage to see if the water would freeze on the windows and the whole thing is frozen DOH
AUDI VIDE TACE

Scrimble

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2009, 04:04:36 pm »
get your ladders out

chrisyg

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 04:12:28 pm »
get your ladders out

and go flying on ground frost  ;)

pingu

Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2009, 04:41:52 pm »
This freeze up has taught me some good lessons...I have just moved and my set-up at the old house was fine but since moving I did not pay that much attention to it all, have been lucky that I have not been 'froze' mainly due to being able to run electric to van and shed to keep things moving.  But is has been things like insulation, they way the hoses run (being able to drain them out) etc.

Will not get caught out again!!!

Cheers
Dave

niceandclean

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 06:19:01 pm »
Yeah be careful, wrapped up pumps as normal and today 2 pumps cracked over the weekend!!! No work tomorrow!!

[GQC] Tim

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Re: Total freeze-up! New
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2009, 11:37:12 pm »
I just gone to the van, and me thinking, oh here in the south it's not going to be that bad. This morning it almost hit -10.

Looked in the van, and yup. Solid block of ice, half a tank. I'm getting an electrical heater tomorrow. Not good.

Kevin R

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Re: Total freeze-up!
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 11:41:05 pm »
If the winters keep being as cold as this then we'll all have hot "frost stat controlled" wfp systems before long.  ;D

Mines working great  ;D