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dai

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A new way with jets
« on: January 04, 2009, 11:44:00 am »
I have been thinking about this for a while, with our jets mounted in the usual way the water has to fight it's way through a mass of bristles to get to the glass when we are scrubbing.
I am experimenting with flexible jets, the actual jets are made from brass wood screws and are about 6mm in length, these are inserted into Algarde silicon hose.
the actual jets are level with the end of the bristles, in fact the bristles help to keep them in place.
This way the water is right where we need it.
The jets are pushed down about 2 mm inside the hose, so no danger of scratching glass, the silicon is soft so no damage there either.
You need to drill 5mm holes in the brush, the Algarde is 6mm in diameter so you have to screw it through the hole but it will go.
Your thoughts are welcome, Dai

Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 11:47:13 am »
Dai, why dont you just trim some bristles away?

Matt

Jeff Brimble

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2009, 11:51:18 am »
I put my 4X Ott plastic hozelocks on little algarde stalks.
Dont think you will find many that have made the upgrade to Algarde so won know what your on about.

dai

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 11:53:01 am »
The bristles help to keep the jets in place, any way when you use a standard brush, the bristles still get in the way when your scrubbing as they bend in front of the jets, you would need to trim a lot of them if you wanted to stop this happening. I tried this brush with my back pack yesterday, it works a treat.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 11:57:50 am »
Handy for georgians and taking knocks over frame edges etc. "Floating jets "

chris@c.m.s

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 12:05:40 pm »
If the jets are set that far forward they wouldn't rinse the bristles, and I cant imagine it would be any good if you rinse on.
Sussex by the sea

dai

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 12:14:22 pm »
If the jets are set that far forward they wouldn't rinse the bristles, and I cant imagine it would be any good if you rinse on.
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I thought they would be better for rinsing on as they don't pick up any any dirt from passing through the bristles.
How many of our bristles are flushed by the jets anyway? Only a small portion, most of the dirt is washed off bristles during the scrubbing.
My thinking is that the full force of the water will give better cleaning than water that is losing a lot of energy through being  forced through bristles.
standard jets is a bit like power washing your van through a hedge.

chris@c.m.s

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 12:21:22 pm »
Hmmm don't know I think I'd rather the the brush is clean personally with the water sloshing everywhere, may work though  ;)
Sussex by the sea

ftp

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 12:22:44 pm »
Dai, that Algarde hose, does it stiffen in the cold weather or is it prone to tangling?
I have the normal hose and gas valves that Gardiners supply for my poles and it's driving me nuts lately and where it kinks and twists in the cold it wears through the base caps in days.
I was wondering if it can be used with the same fittings and where is the best place to get it?

ftp

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 12:29:38 pm »
Oh, i see Gardiners sell it at 59p a meter plus the dreaded vat and postage.

dai

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 12:30:06 pm »
Algarde does not kink easily, but because of being very supple, of small diameter, and very flexible it will tangle round a dandelion, and being stretchy won't pull off it either.
Algarde is a brilliant pole hose but don't have meters of it trailing, keep it as short as you can.
I got mine from here,
www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/880/mia/d/airline+valves+airline+tubing+silicone+250ft/pid/5752660
hope the link works.

dai

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 12:53:46 pm »
You can make jets without any drilling, Get an old car aerial from the scrappy, cut a piece off that will push into the Algarde hose, a 6mm length of the aerial will do, fill it with Araldite rapid, wax a darning needle and push through the tube to the desired diameter, the taper on the needle lets you choose. When or just before the Araldite goes off remove the needle and presto you have your jet.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 01:03:10 pm »
I am impressed  ;)

dai

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 01:06:25 pm »
I am impressed  ;)
A compliment indeed from the master.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2009, 01:14:16 pm »
Snap,
I am just like all you guys I chose to be a windy cleaner, its a good business.

williamx

Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 01:54:13 pm »
Why not attache the jets to the underside of the brush, I have tried this and it works quite well.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2009, 02:05:40 pm »
Uses more water, last thing on the glass should be pure water and you can get contamination from  upper the brush bristles.

williamx

Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 02:08:04 pm »
not if you lift brush head off  glass to rinse

Jeff Brimble

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Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2009, 02:10:21 pm »
Yes I agree but its time and effort consuming.

williamx

Re: A new way with jets
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 02:38:14 pm »
I have just got in the habit of always giving the glass a final rinse even though it might not need it.