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kevin James

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Wfp in minus temps......
« on: January 04, 2009, 09:10:08 am »
Morning all, cold again last night!
Normally I use modified van mount (quad), but last week -4 at night & -1 during the day meant no can do with the reel. Have managed to earn at least a £100, by using the Omnipole backpack which now gas a lid that makes carrying easy. ( too heavy & cold on yet back!). By adding a leetle screen wash& ipa and using a shortish length of hose so it rarely contacts the ground plus using one pole for everything means there's alwaysca flow, I can work in sub zero. A big plus with the additives is that the water dont freeze when lying on the ground!
Using slowest speed on the backpack means you can do 2 houses before refill!
Any help?

Kevin.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 09:31:33 am »
Bet your faster on domestics, bpacs rule OK UK  ;D

I wear mine on a MOD radio difficult load carrier frame, it makes it a lot easier and have the USA style uprated straps.Some put them into a seperate carrymore type carrier which again helps. I dont think wearing the current packs banging against your back will be comfortable so can understand why many of you use them as a grab-and-go unit and put them on a trolley. But it slows you down. When its this cold I keep the water inside the house, the slight diff in temp makes a lot of diff, you cannnot do that so easily on that fantastic 4x4. Yep keeep the hose off the ground does help a lot and keeps it out of the dog do.As your finding you dont need to use as much water as people say you do, so less to carry on your back.

matt

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2009, 10:19:46 am »
here are my concerns and they were the same last year ( though last year it only meant a few late starts )

you start the day at say 10.30 - 11.00 ( the time is now 10.15 and its MINUS 1, the ground is white )  because before then its 0 C, its going to freeze on the floor

say the temp picks up above 0 C, you go out now you know come 2.00 if you work the ground will stay wet and freeze that night

now to me that means a short window of 3 hours to work, is it worth it ? ? ? ? ?


elite mike

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 10:27:25 am »
its no good matt you will just have to go surfing ;)

just pop your 6 mil on, toasty ;D

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 10:28:29 am »
Gonna have go with whats available to be honest. It'll make things inconvenient, but running out of toilet-paper mid-poo is inconvenient and thats never as bad as you fear  ;D

Paul Coleman

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 10:29:36 am »
here are my concerns and they were the same last year ( though last year it only meant a few late starts )

you start the day at say 10.30 - 11.00 ( the time is now 10.15 and its MINUS 1, the ground is white )  because before then its 0 C, its going to freeze on the floor

say the temp picks up above 0 C, you go out now you know come 2.00 if you work the ground will stay wet and freeze that night

now to me that means a short window of 3 hours to work, is it worth it ? ? ? ? ?



I say.  If I'm behind with my work then yes, it is worth it.  If I'm up to date then maybe take several days off and work a weekend to catch up.

Klean07

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 10:43:40 am »
Looks like taking another week off. The weather forecast for next 5 days is looking a bit grim for wfp work.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wm/bromsgrove_forecast_weather.html
kkleanwindowcleaning.co.uk

elite mike

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 10:47:25 am »
Looks like taking another week off. The weather forecast for next 5 days is looking a bit grim for wfp work.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wm/bromsgrove_forecast_weather.html

cheer up at least its dry ;)

dai

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 10:48:58 am »
Looks OK for me in Llandudno, should be able to work in that.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 11:01:48 am »
Hi Dai, if the salt air stops rain water from freezing but you use RO/DI pure does it still help  ???  thought you were from Holywell ?

dai

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 11:13:20 am »
Hi Dai, if the salt air stops rain water from freezing but you use RO/DI pure does it still help  ???  thought you were from Holywell ?
With TDS in the 50's I am DI only, it works out about £1 a day.
I live in Penyffordd Holywell, but most of my work is in Llandudno, that's where I was living when I started back in window cleaning in 1993.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 11:31:43 am »
LLan ( we like going there and Conway) was one  of the places I should have moved to when I started with the c/f modulars, looks like loads of guest houses at 60ftplus  etc but I would guess they are too tight and summer season only cause they have all moved to Cannaries- lucky so and so's

DaveG

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 11:48:15 am »
First day back tomorrow and it looks like its gonna be a scorcher!   

+5 c
You can't polish a turd

dai

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 12:58:26 pm »
LLan ( we like going there and Conway) was one  of the places I should have moved to when I started with the c/f modulars, looks like loads of guest houses at 60ftplus  etc but I would guess they are too tight and summer season only cause they have all moved to Cannaries- lucky so and so's

Your right about them being tight Jeff, I had a couple of them and they demanded that the windows could not be cleaned during mealtimes, [outsides] Dumped years ago.

matt

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2009, 01:10:01 pm »
its no good matt you will just have to go surfing ;)

just pop your 6 mil on, toasty ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

i had a text from some1 down in cormwall new years day, they had gone camping in the van and had hopes of a surf

Tosh

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 01:18:30 pm »
It's after 1.00 pm here and everything is still frozen, even my trad gear!

It's our first day back tomorrow, but I've got a load of inside work for Wor Lass (I do the outsides), just to break her back into a routine.

Taken about fifteen minutes ago:


matt

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2009, 01:28:07 pm »
ive just had to run our rabbits water bottle under a hot tap and leave it in the sink with hot water to defrost it, its 1.30

if its the same next week then i cannot bring myself to work and spray water on the ground

ftp

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Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 01:31:48 pm »
that's where your going wrong Matt, spray it on the windows - far better.  ;D

matt

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2009, 01:37:40 pm »
ive just had to run our rabbits water bottle under a hot tap and leave it in the sink with hot water to defrost it, its 1.30

if its the same next week then i cannot bring myself to work and spray water on the ground

or do i worry too much, should i just get on with it and think, ive been paid, not my fault if at night the water freezes on the floor

matt

Re: Wfp in minus temps......
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 01:39:19 pm »
that's where your going wrong Matt, spray it on the windows - far better.  ;D

your a star, thats where i have gone wrong, i knew it must have been something, now i know, 750 quid days here i come  ;)