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Nathanael Jones

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #320 on: January 08, 2009, 08:34:44 pm »

Nathaneal is wrong because coach 'branded' thermoshine brilliantly and for the first time made it look like a credible marketing alternative to wash and reach systems.- i'll say no more but had it been me i would have egged him on to do a bit more, made him a guild consultant or honoury member-.


I honestly missed that bit,... any chance of pointing me to it?

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #321 on: January 08, 2009, 09:06:02 pm »
Ahh,..

I thought that was good,.. but didn't pay too much attention to the "Thermoshine" part of it!

Kevin R

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #322 on: January 08, 2009, 09:10:28 pm »
Shame he's banned however I have seen him on 4 other forums.

I personally think he has a lot to offer. Not every one is a marketing amateur let alone a coach!!! We all could learn something from him  ;)



mikethechamois

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #323 on: January 08, 2009, 09:13:21 pm »
that leaflet suggests you will save money as your windows stay clean for 4 times longer therefore they will only need doing every 4 months ................or your money back   .................guaranteed

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #324 on: January 08, 2009, 09:27:15 pm »
No one, and i do mean no one, is more conceited or has a higher opinion of themselves on this forum than i do, and considering the competition on here for big head of the year that's saying something, but i'm telling you coach was good.

 He could hit the odd bum note such as using words like prospect, and he had the teachers habit being easily digressed, but the clarity of his thought was outstanding. What i take away with me is that i intend to offer my customers a premium window cleaning service at discount prices, if you like, champagne window cleaning at lemonade prices.

RIP coach

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #325 on: January 08, 2009, 09:32:57 pm »
I hate to say it,.. but I actually agree with Discount for once!!!

:0

mark dew

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #326 on: January 08, 2009, 11:05:45 pm »
That's a pity.
I thought he conducted himself well on here. Instead of just advertising his book he hung around to answer, debate and offer advice.
I thought many of us focused too much on the detail, rather than the thrust of what he was saying.

boshravie

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #327 on: January 08, 2009, 11:12:29 pm »
hi guys
well I say this I think to ban some one who is a positive person and could bring a lot of benefit to our industry  and not saying what was the reason it will make that person more poplar ,  so Moderators let the coach back in the forum, I think lot of us miss him really. :)

Regards

Bosh


mikethechamois

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #328 on: January 08, 2009, 11:31:37 pm »
thats a valid point kevin

dont they use wfp in canada

stephen d

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #329 on: January 08, 2009, 11:54:34 pm »
free speech & debate banned - have we joined the pr brigade

stephen d

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #330 on: January 09, 2009, 12:00:05 am »
its late meant pc

ftp

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #331 on: January 09, 2009, 09:32:00 am »
No one, and i do mean no one, is more conceited or has a higher opinion of themselves on this forum than i do, and considering the competition on here for big head of the year that's saying something, but i'm telling you coach was good.

 He could hit the odd bum note such as using words like prospect, and he had the teachers habit being easily digressed, but the clarity of his thought was outstanding. What i take away with me is that i intend to offer my customers a premium window cleaning service at discount prices, if you like, champagne window cleaning at lemonade prices.

RIP coach

Sorry Discount, but i would have thought the idea was to get the highest prices possible and work less?

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #332 on: January 09, 2009, 06:56:06 pm »
That's different ftp, you want me to put- i charge the highest prices possible so that i can work less- on my leaflets, website and side of my van.

Well as strap lines go it's not very snappy and a bit long. Has it taken you very long to come up with this or was it one of those genius like moments of inspiration.

You could use your time far better by rolling some card up into a large pointy hat and putting a Dee on it in felt pen and then wearing it all night as a sort of pennance.

ronnie paton

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #333 on: January 09, 2009, 07:17:57 pm »
i think we deserve a reason why hes banned!!

we all come on here to help our business and he could of helped us all, he didnt do anything wrong has far has i could see so why ban him

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #334 on: January 09, 2009, 07:40:10 pm »
In his video link he says he was banned. He also says he was asked to make an advertising contribution as a supplier.

So was he banned, or did he refuse to pay? Or was it a mixture.

Then of course there is the conspiracy theory, as he had branded thermoshine into a credible marketing alternative to the market leader ionics, and as the only legit way of getting hold of the van transfer logo and promotional material is by parting with £15 to join the master guild of window cleaners then some might take the view that this would be the best £15 they would ever spend.

My spies tell me there is something of a signup stampede going on, so the conspiracy theory is that other organisations might be affected adversely.

chrisyg

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #335 on: January 09, 2009, 07:43:03 pm »
i think we deserve a reason why hes banned!!

we all come on here to help our business and he could of helped us all, he didnt do anything wrong has far has i could see so why ban him

No chance that will happen, knowing this place. But if you still want to make use of the help he could bring you can always go to one of the other friendlier and more helpful UK forums he and other suppliers can advise about any product not just their own openly.


craig b

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #336 on: January 09, 2009, 07:48:43 pm »
i only no two whats other ones....

chrisyg

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #337 on: January 09, 2009, 07:51:12 pm »
i only no two whats other ones....

due to censorship we cant name them..LOL

Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #338 on: January 09, 2009, 07:55:17 pm »
email sent

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Window Cleaning Business Coach PART TWO
« Reply #339 on: January 09, 2009, 07:59:50 pm »

Then of course there is the conspiracy theory, as he had branded thermoshine into a credible marketing alternative to the market leader ionics, and as the only legit way of getting hold of the van transfer logo and promotional material is by parting with £15 to join the master guild of window cleaners then some might take the view that this would be the best £15 they would ever spend.

My spies tell me there is something of a signup stampede going on, so the conspiracy theory is that other organisations might be affected adversely.

There have been a few new Guild signups this week!!

If you ask nice enough, you can have the Thermoshine logo without joining the Guild,.....