[simon knight]

Did a house today and the back had decking...slippery as hell!

I read somewhere on the forum that scrim under the ladder feet helps to reduce backslip. I tried it and I must say the ladder felt pretty stable.

Questions are: Was this a sense of false security? Also my scrim was dry...or is damp/wet better? Lastly would a bit of micro cloth do just as well?

Thanks

[elite mike]

got to be dry simon

used them myself for many years, on ice 

some will be shocked at this

but now wfp for me

[Chris Galloway]

I was having problems walking around the street with all the icy patches everywhere, and this was at 1pm! I wouldn;t do it on a ladder now.. wfp all the way.

[Bryan_Dolby]

You need a laddermate

Look at FWC website

Bryan

[stig]

why take chances?  3yrs ago i was stepping off the ladder to get onto flat roof  ,one foot on ladder-one foot on roof,, slid from under me ended up in hospital 2 days -lucky to be walking never mind working...iand i had good rubber suction feet but had abit of ice on one foot ...... so if not sure now it dow get done.. buy urself a trolley setup idid ..cracking set up.  

[Roy Harding]

Buy some patio cleaner from a garden centre, and mix some up in a triger spray. Then spray were you put the ladder feet, this will clean it up for a few years.

Roy

Ps this will also desolve ice.

[simon knight]

Thanks for the input guys, it really is appreciated!

I've looked in ladder mate and good as I'm sure it is I really can't be carrying around yet another piece of gear.

I'm risk adverse to the next guy but in wintertime obviously conditions are not ideal but if I wimped out every time getting at a particular window was a bit dicey then I'd probably end up doing a quarter of the windows on the house...or just be a good weather merchant.

I don't mind a bit of risk as long as it's controlled risk and I'm taking all sensible precautions to minimise it!

I'm trad and therefore I accept that going up ladders with the the risk of a fall comes with the job.

[stig]

Thanks for the input guys, it really is appreciated!

I've looked in ladder mate and good as I'm sure it is I really can't be carrying around yet another piece of gear.

I'm risk adverse to the next guy but in wintertime obviously conditions are not ideal but if I wimped out every time getting at a particular window was a bit dicey then I'd probably end up doing a quarter of the windows on the house...or just be a good weather merchant.

I don't mind a bit of risk as long as it's controlled risk and I'm taking all sensible precautions to minimise it!

I'm trad and therefore I accept that going up ladders with the the risk of a fall comes with the job.

not being funny mate but id rather wimp out and explain to customer than end up like i did again...i know u didnt mean it to sound like that but if u have had a fall u would understand

[Chris Galloway]

Thanks for the input guys, it really is appreciated!

I've looked in ladder mate and good as I'm sure it is I really can't be carrying around yet another piece of gear.

I'm risk adverse to the next guy but in wintertime obviously conditions are not ideal but if I wimped out every time getting at a particular window was a bit dicey then I'd probably end up doing a quarter of the windows on the house...or just be a good weather merchant.

I don't mind a bit of risk as long as it's controlled risk and I'm taking all sensible precautions to minimise it!

I'm trad and therefore I accept that going up ladders with the the risk of a fall comes with the job.

not being funny mate but id rather wimp out and explain to customer than end up like i did again...i know u didnt mean it to sound like that but if u have had a fall u would understand

Lets face it, everyone would rather face the risks until you have the accident.

Lets just hope the accident you may have s is not that bad.

Ive heard many horror stories of WC... and now they only do wfp.

[stig]

im still 90% trad and itll prob stay nthat way its just that ive realised by having another method is far safer than taking a slght chance

[simon knight]

Trouble is working where I do I can only trad...there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of wfp...and if there was I'd go poling tomorrow!

So I have to climb ladders day in day out and so far touch wood I've been OK apart from the odd mishap which led to no harm.

But anyway, back to thread...so it's dry scrim under the feet...

...obviously not ideal but another small measure to keep body in one piece!

Roll on summer!

[karlosdaze]

These are what I use:
www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/04/ladders-become-safer.html

[Niall McAllister]

hi all,
even when you know you have done things correctly, and are doing things safely, you can still end up being airlifted to hospital with two skull fractures, a brain bleed, and a broken collar bone.
whatever people say, there is a place for trad, but every step you go up increases the risk. at the end of the day though, you take a risk walking down the street. so, you just have to get on with it.

Niall

oh, don't know if scrim works, but if it's to slippy i tell them it's not happening

[pjulk]

Just don't use ladders on decking its lethal stuff.
Its bad enough just walking on some of them when its wet.

Use a standard pole and your traditional tools.
If the customer don't like it tough ask them to go up a ladder on wet decking.

[dmlservices]

These are what I use:
www.robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/04/ladders-become-safer.html

on that page , there is a pic of you wfp'ing,

the window below is open. 

daz

[karlosdaze]

And - your point is?

[dmlservices]

surley water would por inside ?

daz

[Feen]

Laddermate is excellent. I'm mainly wfp, but keep this in the van. It really is a good piece of kit and remember you earn diddly squat lying in the hospital

[karlosdaze]

Laddermate is excellent. I'm mainly wfp, but keep this in the van. It really is a good piece of kit and remember you earn diddly squat lying in the hospital

I always put them on when using ladders now - they are the only product out there I feel comfortable with. 5 seconds on & off.

Daz - No it doesn't, the building was built using a spirit level.

[dmlservices]

Laddermate is excellent. I'm mainly wfp, but keep this in the van. It really is a good piece of kit and remember you earn diddly squat lying in the hospital

I always put them on when using ladders now - they are the only product out there I feel comfortable with. 5 seconds on & off.

Daz - No it doesn't, the building was built using a spirit level.

 


daz