[Trotsky]

I transfered over to wfp over a year ago (reasonably effortlessly, I might add!)

I have been reading on other threads...

It seems to be the overall opinion that WFP is faster! (I have to agree on MOST jobs!)
It is in my opinion much easier!
The way I look at it... You wouldn't go back to dial-up after being on broadband, now would you?
However, I never "Lowered" my prices, because I was faster!

My new pricing policy has increased!

I believe WFP is more professional and so my prices reflect that!
My yearly outgoings have quadrupled, this is another reason for price increases!
Each payment on filters,  DI Resin, salt, new poles, brushes etc
Has to be "Factored in"

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS WE SHOULD CHARGE MORE THAN TRADITIONAL CLEANERS?

[seandyer2003]

I think you should charge more full stop, if you have the confidence and feel the professional approach make that acceptable then so be it, the "supply and demand" for the service you provide in your area will determine how high you can price, or just how tight the custy is But i dont think necessarily you have a right to charge more than a trad custy as traditional is hard work and the finished result can be just as good if not better in certain areas, wfp is better in others, so charge what you can get!

[dmlservices]

i charge the same , why charge more?

daz

[Tosh]

I think you should charge more full stop,

You reckon?  Every time? 

What about high jobs; three-story+?  You'd price them the same price as you would for ladders? 

[seandyer2003]

I think you should charge more full stop,

You reckon?  Every time? 

What about high jobs; three-story+?  You'd price them the same price as you would for ladders? 

eh??? I said charge more, if you can from a business point of view nothing to do with method, its like a joiner charging more because he hung your door with power tools instead of hand held, the customer doesnt generally care

[trike]

you can do the job much easyer and quicker wfp,my prices stay the same

[Trotsky]

i charge the same , why charge more?

daz

Hi, daz
Yes I noticed on another thread!

I just don't see how you can be making the same money each year!

When you did trad, lets say for arguments sake, you earned £10,000
You now clean WFP and earn £10,000
But you have had a lot more outgoings as mentioned, If not costed in (past on to customer, Lets say £300 a year!) you're working for less than you did the previous year!

[dmlservices]

my reasoning is i can do the job quicker now ,

your example of  earning £10000  trad per year, done wfp you will do same amount of work in 3/4 of the time, so you use the other `1/4 to get more work, and increase profits

daz

[Oakley Windows]

I have found that when I was doing Georgians trad I did about £30.00 an hour, thats doubled now I do them on the pole. Id be hard pushed to justify an increase, I have in fact lowered my Georgian pricing structure (as well as leads slightly).

Doing them wfp using my new pricing structure for them I earn nice money and secure more of them.

[Chris Galloway]

The same. However although its quicker i have higher running costs due to equipment upkeep and consumables.

I choose WFP for its safety benefits and better cleaning attributes.

[dmlservices]

I have found that when I was doing Georgians trad I did about £30.00 an hour, thats doubled now I do them on the pole. Id be hard pushed to justify an increase, I have in fact lowered my Georgian pricing structure (as well as leads slightly).

Doing them wfp using my new pricing structure for them I earn nice money and secure more of them.

this is a good example of why you would be mad to charge more

daz

[Trotsky]

I have found that when I was doing Georgians trad I did about £30.00 an hour, thats doubled now I do them on the pole. Id be hard pushed to justify an increase, I have in fact lowered my Georgian pricing structure (as well as leads slightly).

Doing them wfp using my new pricing structure for them I earn nice money and secure more of them.

this is a good example of why you would be mad to charge more

daz

Good points, but I am not convinced!
The reason I went over to WFP was mainly safety!
It's now costing me more to do the same job, only safer!
Safety costs me money, that cost is going to the customer!

None of my customers have complained, some are actually happier tha safety is my main concern!
They are willing to pay more!
The other day a thread talked of a w/c falling to his death...
No one wants that, especially a customer!
I remain unconvinced 

[Oakley Windows]

With WFP you earn more, end of. Yes it costs more, but those costs are EASILY covered by the increased income. Let alone the fact that you have peace of mind regarding your personal safety.

Or dont you earn more?

[Tosh]

eh??? I said charge more, if you can from a business point of view nothing to do with method, its like a joiner charging more because he hung your door with power tools instead of hand held, the customer doesnt generally care

There's nothing wrong with pricing more, but would you get the job?

Everyone; just about has a WFP in these parts; so would you still price more given that for 3+ story jobs?

[dmlservices]

with wfp i am safer, does a better job, sill frames cleaned, windows above conservatorys can be cleaned,

all this for the same price as trad .

if i were the custy , i know which one i would choose,

charge more though, and guess which one they will go for  

daz

[Wayne Thomas]

Would be nice to price higher using wfp, after all we are cleaning their frames as well. Unfortunately in the current economic downturn customers are in a position to choose which window cleaner will clean their windows with all the new window cleaners starting up after losing their jobs offering ridiculously low prices.
WFP costs more to run than trad, so if you can't justify the extra running costs through cleaning quicker then you're doing something seriously wrong like faffing around and being too concientious. If that's the case switch back to trad or work safer and accept you need to work at using wfp more efficiently.

[Trotsky]

With WFP you earn more, end of. Yes it costs more, but those costs are EASILY covered by the increased income. Let alone the fact that you have peace of mind regarding your personal safety.

Or dont you earn more?

Now this is a good question!
In answer, Yes,  I earn more... in less time!
As for working harder... No lets not say harder but longer hours (more customers)!
To reach the same goals?
I am increasing my round (you are right about a 1/3 quicker than trad, so a further 1/3 on my round should fill it again nicely!
I then have a increase in earnings (at a better, no slightly higher price!)

As a rider to this argument, I know a trad w/c who charge more, to customers who don't like wfp ( He actually uses it as a selling pitch!)

[dmlservices]

but i don' t work longer, still do same hours as whem i was trad,

i just do more work in same time

daz

[Oakley Windows]

I do more work per hour and can work longer, as it doesn't tire me so much......I did 6 hours one day last week 

Win Win

[mlscontractcleaner]

I don't feel the need to charge more; it's so much quicker that I earn more any way.

I don't charge any less though either; why would I try to improve my business and work quality and then charge less for the service offered??

Quite odd!!