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brushes
« on: November 08, 2008, 05:26:37 pm »
hi all i use a slx pole with a superlite brush that came with it any body tell me whats the difference between a single trim and a double trim and whats the best to use i do mainley houses thanks andy

kevin James

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 09:03:28 pm »
Hi,
 I maybe wrong, but double trim has the inner portion of bristles shorter. This, I believe, means you can rinse " on the window " with better results.

cheers Kevin J

paulscotney

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 09:12:38 pm »
Hi,
 I maybe wrong, but double trim has the inner portion of bristles shorter. This, I believe, means you can rinse " on the window " with better results.

cheers Kevin J

I think that is correct. I have the original dual trim brush and  no longer rinse at all on maintenance cleans, unless I can see some debris on the window. I do scrub more but for less than the time it takes too rinse.

I haven't had a complaint and have been using this brush since it first came out.  I have also checked the very odd window and they have been perfect.

I have a Salmon single trim and although good,  it does leave some spots if you don't rinse off.

The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 09:40:08 pm »
I have both Mk1 , Mk2 Duel and Single trim brushes from Gardiners - and for me personally the Mk2 Single trim is the best brush I have ever used! :o

Great scrubbing, rinsing on or off - and just the right amount of stiffness in the bristles.  Works brilliantly with hot water too  :)

Both are great brushes though.

I use both every day
THE SEVEN BAYS WINDOW CLEANING COMPANY

Alex Gardiner

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 10:34:07 pm »
I never understood dual-trim brushes until I started developing various prototype versions about 18 months ago, up until that time I had only ever used single trim versions (apart from one really bad dual-trim brush I bought).

Now I wouldn't use anything else. I find with the MKII versions of the Super-Lite brushes that the single trim probably scrubs slightly harder, but is slightly harder work to use on the glass. Because of this my favourite brush is the Dual-Trim brush. The purpose of the dual-trim is that it allows the outer bristle to splay more easily to allow the brush to 'work' over the surface of the glass with less effort, but it also has the shorter bristle to stop it splaying completely and to allow tougher scrubbing where occasionally needed.

Brushes are a very personal choice though and different users will always prefer different things.


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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 06:45:12 pm »
thanks for all replys andy

NWH

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 06:46:59 pm »
Any news on the flocked versions.

Alex Gardiner

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 06:54:19 pm »
Any news on the flocked versions.

About two weeks away.

ftp

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2008, 07:04:07 pm »
My dual trim hs been working particularly well on the spider poo deposits on the frames. There's not a massive difference between single trim and dual trim but it is noticeable but not enough to worry about in my opinion.

NWH

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 07:36:50 pm »
Any news on the flocked versions.

About two weeks away.
Good job Alex,are you going to fill the stock up with bristles like you have the new full trim on the new double trim,i think it would improve it even more there`s still a big gap on the brush doing nothing.Having more bristles wouldn`t spoil the splay.

Alex Gardiner

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2008, 07:54:15 pm »
You will have to wait and see  :)

Alex Gardiner

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 03:04:33 pm »
The flocked ones are now in stock (ahead of schedule).

trevor perry

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 04:50:44 pm »
The flocked ones are now in stock (ahead of schedule).
are these just the dual trim ones or is there a single trim version.
thanks alex
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Alex Gardiner

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 05:20:17 pm »
They are just in the dual trim at the moment Trevor.  The inner shorter bristles are partially flocked, partially mono-filament to provide superior scrubbing when occasionally needed.   They are slightly lighter than the mono-filament version - on my scales 260g with socket.

geefree

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 05:35:07 pm »
They are just in the dual trim at the moment Trevor. The inner shorter bristles are partially flocked, partially mono-filament to provide superior scrubbing when occasionally needed. They are slightly lighter than the mono-filament version - on my scales 260g with socket.

i know , that i should know.... but i still cant get my head around... mono filament,, flocked etc...

i bought a vikan flocked... it was nice and fluffy at the ends of the bristles,,, so i presumed that must be the flock....

at the end of the day the brush was wet (obviously :) )...... and it resembled any sweeping brush wet through.... with no flock.... until it dried...looked good dry though????

:)

dd

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2008, 07:34:57 pm »
They are just in the dual trim at the moment Trevor.  The inner shorter bristles are partially flocked, partially mono-filament to provide superior scrubbing when occasionally needed.   They are slightly lighter than the mono-filament version - on my scales 260g with socket.
Are the outer bristles mono-filament and the inner bristles the only ones that are flocked? So does this still allow for rinsing with brush on?

Alex Gardiner

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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2008, 08:40:13 pm »
The outer bristles are flocked/flagged the inner shorter bristles are a mix of flocked and mono-filament to give slightly better scrubbing power. Generally flocked bristle brushes are less suitable for rinsing on than their mono-filament counterparts, but they do have other properties which some users prefer. The main benefit of these brushes over say their Vikan flocked counter-parts is that they are 42% lighter.

NWH

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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2008, 08:43:59 pm »
42 % is a massive amount especially on the end of a pole,it will seem like 200% lighter when in use.

dmlservices

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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2008, 08:46:31 pm »
Hi,
 I maybe wrong, but double trim has the inner portion of bristles shorter. This, I believe, means you can rinse " on the window " with better results.

cheers Kevin J


yep yuo are right ,

i have the supalite double trim

excellent for rinsing brush on, holds very little dirt


daz

dmlservices

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2008, 08:49:47 pm »
Any news on the flocked versions.


why would you need a focked version ???


daz