[Justen Uff]

You're like a bunch of bickering old Banshees

No wonder people don't trust window cleaners i reckon if thepublic read some of this lot they would think you don't have a clue or you are just plain greedy opportunists

I charge minimum £10 and I live in the SE.

[karygate]

You're like a bunch of bickering old Banshees

No wonder people don't trust window cleaners i reckon if thepublic read some of this lot they would think you don't have a clue or you are just plain greedy opportunists

I charge minimum £10 and I live in the SE.

thank god i am not on my own . they make programs ABOUT ROUGUE TRADERS LIKE SOME OF YOU LOT.

[Londoner]

I think you have all missed the most important point. To me it depends a lot on the customer, many of my regulars like their conservatory roofs done a couple of times a year and to me its just an add on.

I have got it all down to a fine art now so I can do them in no time. I'm not going to charge them an arm and a leg.

[geefree]

As i said , i have a minimum of 30 quid... quoted one yesterday morning... very small, slightly dirty.... no one home so i dropped the quote through the letter box..

later in the day i recieved a voice mail as my phone was off earlier....

The lady said .. thanks for your quote.. go ahead when you can..., but i do think its a little cheap, she said... anyway if you go ahead , i will make it right with you....

so if i did not have a minimum charge... that con roof would probably have been cheaper in real terms.... as some of you are saying a fiver and tenner etc....

its a service....!  some customers would not dream of tackling such a dirty hard to reach job , such as cleaning a conservatory roof....

like other services, people pay to have jobs done that they acnt... or dont want to do themselves...

There is more to it than saying its ripping a customer off....

i paid £40 to have a gas pipe cut, and stop ended, by a corgi registered plumber...

i could have done it ... he was in and out in ten minutes

and i was happy to pay it.

i know its different from a safety aspect.

but we provide a service, customers know that. and most are prepared to pay , rather than do it themselved.

Is that not what makes the world go round? small businesss?

imagine everyone doing everything for themselves.?

[Pole 2 Pole]

You're like a bunch of bickering old Banshees

No wonder people don't trust window cleaners i reckon if thepublic read some of this lot they would think you don't have a clue or you are just plain greedy opportunists

I charge minimum £10 and I live in the SE.

thank god i am not on my own . they make programs ABOUT ROUGUE TRADERS LIKE SOME OF YOU LOT.

Not entirely true fella. Rogue traders p*ss in attics,fleece ol gals for a grand or two and still not lose a moments sleep. Charge £500 for an hours work or invent work when it's not entirely, if at all needed. To have a discussion about what is the correct or incorrect price to quote on a job(when we all know the answer has too many variables to be right or wrong) is purely to educate ourselves as to what isn't shooting ourselves in the foot.Don't even begin to throw us into the same category as "that" scum on the tv mate.
Thank you x

[petski2]

Wow things have sure got more aggressive on here since I was last on
Anyhow we treat it like this..
Simply price up like any other job and work out how long it will take!
If its a one off price it up as such,if they want it doing every month or so be sensible and maybe half the price as it wont be too dirty on consecutive cleans.

Anyhow our minimum is £40 and we convert around 90% of our quotes into jobs.
That in itself tells me we quote too low

Pete

[geefree]

Just friendly banter among colleagues 

[groundhog]

Just friendly banter among colleagues 

More like ignorance, if I find out that someone is getting paid a better price for the service he is providing than I am then my reaction is, how is he able to get that price, what is he doing better or differently than me, and what can I do to be able to achieve a better price. Why slag others off or accuse them of ripping people off because they command a better price for their services? We should learn from one another and not try to turn everything into a slanging match!!

[geefree]

Because , everyone has an opinion which they would like to stress.... if we were all sat around a table, these things would all still be said to each other...

and i think we are learning,
even if things get a little heated. then fair enough.

its all personal opinions, and thats what a forum is about...

[groundhog]

Because , everyone has an opinion which they would like to stress.... if we were all sat around a table, these things would all still be said to each other...

and i think we are learning,
even if things get a little heated. then fair enough.

its all personal opinions, and thats what a forum is about...

Gazza I do agree with you, and thats what I'm giving, my personal opinion. I just think that far too many people on here are much too quick to criticise, and slag off others, especially those that are doing well. This forum has lost a lot of very good members through this type of ignorance. I know that it gets too much for me sometimes and I just have to walk away from the forum for a while, which is a shame because there are a lot of good people on here. 

[karygate]

if you can sleep at night charging £85 for 40 minutes domestic cleaning then thats ok.
commercial work does warrant a higher pay but does this ring true for a domestic . and i did see the work and it was nothing special.

[sageorgeta]

if you can sleep at night charging £85 for 40 minutes domestic cleaning then thats ok.
commercial work does warrant a higher pay but does this ring true for a domestic . and i did see the work and it was nothing special.

You are obviously not capable of getting higher prices than you do (for whatever reason) otherwise like any person running a business you would.
Yes you need to give value so that you can have repeat work,but you are also talking about prices for cleaning a job that the normal domestic customer just will not tackle.
When i started wc i set out with the idea that i would not be like other wc's in my area.They were to cheap for the service that they were providing imo,and it was noticable not only in the way they turned up at jobs but also the way in which they did the jobs.
Their mistake in underpricing was that they did a cruddy job,now this will obviously happen where a wc has a round full of customers that are underpriced....we have all seen it.
Their is no differance in pricing a conservatory job correctly and to the level at which you personally would be happy to do that job for.
Whether you charge £20 or £100 is down to your own personal targets,you would not be ripping the customer off in either circumstance because the customer has the opportunity to decline your price when you quote the job.
To compare wc's who obviously earn more than you on these type of jobs as rogue traders sound like total ignorance and jelousy on your part.
I have taken the time and effort to produce a business that provides me and others a good income,a lot of hard background work goes into getting the work in the first place and for me to go out and quote a conservatory clean at maybe £30 because thats what other wc's might charge is ridiculous....i may as well give up and start cleaning houses for a fiver each.
Each to their own but imo if you want to build a business that you can really call a business (and those that are running one will know what i mean) then you have to work out your costings accordingly to make a decent profit....not just beer money.

[gary999]

 i have a min of £10 and dont think i have charged more than £40
for my regular customers lets face it using wfp th e jobs like money
for old rope i personally dont consider it hard work and the largest one i
have done has only taken me a little over an hour. im happy with my prices
and generally so are my customers.

on one off jobs i do charge double though

[karygate]

i havebuilt my business off recommendation only and certainly are not one of the beer brigade. i have just decided to build my business on the back of my customers referrals and am doing very well . jealousy has nothing to do with it , i just provide value for money which will mean i may not be rich this year , but i will be here year in year out.

i think it is just best to disagree and i do not want to judge people as a whole either . but if i have seen someones work i hope i am able to comment upon it , as i hope if someone has seen mine they would also.

[Sir Squeaky]

...for me to go out and quote a conservatory clean at maybe £30 because thats what other wc's might charge is ridiculous....i may as well give up and start cleaning houses for a fiver each.

Rubbish.
There's a world of difference between £30 for a conservatory and doing houses at a fiver. :
You're not going to do 6 houses in the time it takes to do a conservatory.
2 possibly.

I think what you fail to see is that others aren't jealous of some of the prices on here, it's that they realise it's a load of rubbish, said to try and look clever.

[d s windowcleaning]

i do the conservatory as part of the service including the roof not as a extra , i charge £10 per month so its £120 per year just to keep there conny clean , takes no more than 20 minutes . if its a one off then i would price more the most ive ever had from a 1 off conny clean was £45 plus a £5 tip a job that took less than a hour .

[Mike 108]

if you can sleep at night charging £85 for 40 minutes domestic cleaning then thats ok.
commercial work does warrant a higher pay but does this ring true for a domestic . and i did see the work and it was nothing special.

You are obviously not capable of getting higher prices than you do (for whatever reason) otherwise like any person running a business you would.
Yes you need to give value so that you can have repeat work,but you are also talking about prices for cleaning a job that the normal domestic customer just will not tackle.
When i started wc i set out with the idea that i would not be like other wc's in my area.They were to cheap for the service that they were providing imo,and it was noticable not only in the way they turned up at jobs but also the way in which they did the jobs.
Their mistake in underpricing was that they did a cruddy job,now this will obviously happen where a wc has a round full of customers that are underpriced....we have all seen it.
Their is no differance in pricing a conservatory job correctly and to the level at which you personally would be happy to do that job for.
Whether you charge £20 or £100 is down to your own personal targets,you would not be ripping the customer off in either circumstance because the customer has the opportunity to decline your price when you quote the job.
To compare wc's who obviously earn more than you on these type of jobs as rogue traders sound like total ignorance and jelousy on your part.
I have taken the time and effort to produce a business that provides me and others a good income,a lot of hard background work goes into getting the work in the first place and for me to go out and quote a conservatory clean at maybe £30 because thats what other wc's might charge is ridiculous....i may as well give up and start cleaning houses for a fiver each.
Each to their own but imo if you want to build a business that you can really call a business (and those that are running one will know what i mean) then you have to work out your costings accordingly to make a decent profit....not just beer money.

I'm with Gary - I would not sleep easy if I'd charged £85 for 40 minutes work, even though there are some good points to be picked up from Sageorgeta's reply.

I've been here before - confused about what my future stance should be.

I suppose what is a high price to one person (who doesn't usually charge that much) is only normal to another (who charges that amount all the time).

I'm 'all for' earning more money - but my concience (or is it 'nerve') will only let me go so far. Maybe I just need to toughen up.

Onwards and upwards!

Regards

Mike