jim, i didn't mention ph cos that wasn't what i wanted to know, i didn't mention how to boil an egg either, i'm amazed you didn't throw the answer to that in somewhere as well. the question clearly states what to use to clean, not how to test, or what ph or anything else, just what to use to get a good result, you say ive only cleaned a couple of suites and that is correct so you must know that ive done my training and know what i'm doing, ive even stated several times that if i'm unsure i walk away, i'm not unsure about this suite, i know i can clean it safely, as stated in the chemicals i'm going to use, the question was to see if any one had had good results with anything else. thought thats what this forum was all about, sharing your experiences and results.
thanks geoff.
derek