[ftp]

I'm going to post because it may help others going down the same route.
 Ok so my vac is up and running and working pretty well now. I cleaned the front of a large four bed detatched this morning and a couple of things i've found:

It's fairly critical to get the nozzle angle just right otherwise it misses much of the sludge and leaves clean trails runing through it. A camera is pretty important here if your not going up ladders.
Superlight sections do clog a little as will every pole so i'm going to spray the insides with silicone spray when i've cleaned them up.
38mm tubing has a couple of drawbacks obviously the diameter is a little small and also it is prone to twisting and kinking if you don't lay it straight. The other problem is that the insides are ribbed like the outside only not as much, so the sludge tends to stick to it pretty quickly, the larger grey re-enforced tubing (51mm) has a smooth bore and so would probably be more clog proof.
Set up time about ten minutes, cleaning time around twenty minutes (front only top and garage so about one and a half lengths of the house).
Pricing? mmm well it was my sister-in-law and unfortunately she timed me so i asked her what she would be prepared to pay to have her gutters emptied front and back.................£30 
Good job she's not my customer. 

PS don't let anyone kid you it's hard work! You can rest the pole on the gutter and inch it along with twists of the wrist. Might be different at three storeys and above.

[jeff1]

I'm going to post because it may help others going down the same route.
 Ok so my vac is up and running and working pretty well now. I cleaned the front of a large four bed detatched this morning and a couple of things i've found:

It's fairly critical to get the nozzle angle just right otherwise it misses much of the sludge and leaves clean trails runing through it. A camera is pretty important here if your not going up ladders.
Superlight sections do clog a little as will every pole so i'm going to spray the insides with silicone spray when i've cleaned them up.
38mm tubing has a couple of drawbacks obviously the diameter is a little small and also it is prone to twisting and kinking if you don't lay it straight. The other problem is that the insides are ribbed like the outside only not as much, so the sludge tends to stick to it pretty quickly, the larger grey re-enforced tubing (51mm) has a smooth bore and so would probably be more clog proof.
Set up time about ten minutes, cleaning time around twenty minutes (front only top and garage so about one and a half lengths of the house).
Pricing? mmm well it was my sister-in-law and unfortunately she timed me so i asked her what she would be prepared to pay to have her gutters emptied front and back.................£30 
Good job she's not my customer. 

PS don't let anyone kid you it's hard work! You can rest the pole on the gutter and inch it along with twists of the wrist. Might be different at three storeys and above.

Good observations, but I think £30 for a Job that you used as  a Guinea pig was a fair price and you both gained from it.

Good write up though.

[ftp]

  No, i didn't get paid at all - i don't charge family. That would have been the price she would be prepared to pay.

[ftp]

Generator comes Monday. I had planned to use the customers power - great they pay for it!
 However, it did occur to me that if i tripped their power and if the freezer/heating timer or anything else were to trip and get missed then my name would be mud. My mothers fuse box is seven feet up in her garage and she wouldn't have a clue how to switch it back on or change a fuse even if she could climb that high and survive!
Generator is an expense i hadn't planned on really but could be worth it for piece of mind at the end of the day.

[matt]

No, i didn't get paid at all - i don't charge family. That would have been the price she would be prepared to pay.

so you paid her the 30 quid 

[ftp]

Need to look for some larger diameter pipe to make some different nozzles. Maybe some for 51mm tube  and some to fit over the 38mm rather than in it. Maybe just get a couple of cuffs for the end to fit tools. Plenty of sites around supplying all sorts of odd attatchments. One manufacturer uses a different manifold that enters from the side rather than square on. Theres a big supplier not that far away so might pop in for a rummage.

[Chris Galloway]

Need to look for some larger diameter pipe to make some different nozzles. Maybe some for 51mm tube  and some to fit over the 38mm rather than in it. Maybe just get a couple of cuffs for the end to fit tools. Plenty of sites around supplying all sorts of odd attatchments. One manufacturer uses a different manifold that enters from the side rather than square on. Theres a big supplier not that far away so might pop in for a rummage.

Let me know how you get on

Where do you think are the better places to find hose attachments on the net? Im waiting for my new hose length to turn up, then im ready for a trial run myself. Got loads of houses in my street with trees over them, should see the amount of leaves on the roofs and gutters in some.... $$$ 

[ftp]

Plenty of places - obviously designed for normal cleaning but cuffs and pipe can easily be found in both diameters.
I found the manifold interesting on some of these models:
www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/products.php?cat=Specialist%20Vacuum%20Cleaners

Hose for example:  www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/products.php?cat=Specialist%20Vacuum%20Cleaners

Haven't checked in any detail but there seems to be plenty of outlets.

[Chris Galloway]

found another 3600 industrial system with cyclonic action..

www.numatic.co.uk/products4.asp?id=87&status=

Would need to find a spares supplier that could get the inlet section, and a plug for the original inlet.

I'll have to make a few calls in the next week.

[ftp]

38mm does work, just wouldn't be as good as larger diamater hose. Think Mr H is happy with his. S2 sections seem pretty good - i use them upside down. Hardest bit so far is just nozzle selection. Might work ok without one at all, but i would think the pipe might suck itself to the gutter wall. I've made a spike which seems ok so far on an angle adapter. Probably make a more robust one soon. Quite suprised at how much dirt flushed out of the hose when i stuck a hosepipe down it.

[Chris Galloway]

38mm does work, just wouldn't be as good as larger diamater hose. Think Mr H is happy with his. S2 sections seem pretty good - i use them upside down. Hardest bit so far is just nozzle selection. Might work ok without one at all, but i would think the pipe might suck itself to the gutter wall. I've made a spike which seems ok so far on an angle adapter. Probably make a more robust one soon. Quite suprised at how much dirt flushed out of the hose when i stuck a hosepipe down it.

I was looking at different types of ducting there is available. I think it would be best to use a smooth internal section hose, obviously it might be heavier, but most would be on the ground anyway.

Using regular hose the dirt will as you say stick to the insides mores, not only making the hose heavier, but also make the hose smell after time. Believe me, the crap that comes out the gutters you dont want lying about - ive left a bucket once out the back, dear me, i nearly hurled! Im using 51mm down pipe section at them moment, but that goes into the 38mm hose length - i made an error on the order and was too late to back track - thinking of getting the omnipole for use with the vac at a later date anyway.

[Mr H]

Here you go guys...... After the question of "durability" came up in another thread I decided to take off the first hose section to see how the top SL2 section had faired as that had taken the brunt of all the gutters I have cleaned. That top edge has been hit by leaves, stones, sand, grit and everything that has been sucked out of a gutter since I put it together over 7months ago.
The dirt you see is from the last house I did on Saturday morning before removeing the section:-

I'll let you make up your own mind as to "strength" ad "Durability" under true working conditions.......





This a photo of a couple of the attachments I made up from the parts that come wh the vac.





Regards
Mr H

[ftp]

Thanks MrH - i recognise those bits. The pole looks perfect to me with an even thickness to the wall. Which tool do you use the most? I'm using tubing in the end of the 38mm tube cut at an angle to match. I have several pieces at different angles and can easily twist them to get the best fit to gutter. I was a bit concerned about the leverage of the clamp on the S2 section but obviously it's strong enough for seven months work.
Thanks for that.

[mark311069]

if i turned up to a job with tools that looked like that i would be embarrassed. i did a lage commercial job on saturday and those bits of plastic would not have lasted ten mins.

the way that you diy gutter guys slag of anybody who buys a gutter vac from omnipole(that works first time) i would have thought you would have made stuff that was fit for the job. never mind guys back to the garden shed to cut up a few more bits of plastic

[matt]

if i turned up to a job with tools that looked like that i would be embarrassed. i did a lage commercial job on saturday and those bits of plastic would not have lasted ten mins.

the way that you diy gutter guys slag of anybody who buys a gutter vac from omnipole(that works first time) i would have thought you would have made stuff that was fit for the job. never mind guys back to the garden shed to cut up a few more bits of plastic

why the negative post, your happy with your omniguttervac, no need to post negative remarks on others, im sure we can all make out own mind up on the pics we see

reminds me of a post i made with a guide on how to build a pole, some clown wrote " it looks crap " really did make me laugh, nothing contructive what-so-ever

[mark311069]

if i turned up to a job with tools that looked like that i would be embarrassed. i did a lage commercial job on saturday and those bits of plastic would not have lasted ten mins.

the way that you diy gutter guys slag of anybody who buys a gutter vac from omnipole(that works first time) i would have thought you would have made stuff that was fit for the job. never mind guys back to the garden shed to cut up a few more bits of plastic

why the negative post, your happy with your omniguttervac, no need to post negative remarks on others, im sure we can all make out own mind up on the pics we see

reminds me of a post i made with a guide on how to build a pole, some clown wrote " it looks crap " really did make me laugh, nothing contructive what-so-ever

its seems ok to make negative posts about anybody who has a omnigutter vac. you only have to read any post by ftp to see that.

[Chris Galloway]

the way that you diy gutter guys slag of anybody who buys a gutter vac from omnipole(that works first time) i would have thought you would have made stuff that was fit for the job. never mind guys back to the garden shed to cut up a few more bits of plastic

Ive not said anything negative about omnivac, and im doing a diy. Dont tarnish us all with the same brush 

[ftp]

Actually i never said anything against the Omnivac either  I did get into a tangle with Glyn though, but if you read the posts you will see.
 I've never seen an Omnivac, never touched one and couldn't compare. If you do a search you will find the same row i had happened before and ended with Glyn leaving the forum for a while. The argument was really about patents and why it couldn't or shouldn't be DIYed.
I've got nothing against you either and was very grateful for Kev R's help believe it or not.
 

[ftp]

Generator arrived today and is now bolted into the trailer, acid added to the battery, oil put in the engine, petrol in the tank and away it goes. Rather big and not exactly silent! The exhaust is heating my trailer side a bit too hot so will either make an extension to the exhaust or line it with a heat resistant material. One thing you need is space either in your van or in your garage. Something i'm a bit short of.

[Chris Galloway]

Generator arrived today and is now bolted into the trailer, acid added to the battery, oil put in the engine, petrol in the tank and away it goes. Rather big and not exactly silent! The exhaust is heating my trailer side a bit too hot so will either make an extension to the exhaust or line it with a heat resistant material. One thing you need is space either in your van or in your garage. Something i'm a bit short of.

What trailer do you have? one like Kev R posted? or just a standard type one?