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dave allen

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can pure water damage cars
« on: October 15, 2008, 09:57:24 pm »
if we need to seal the floor of our vans to protect from pure water leakages,are pure water systems suitable for cleaning cars?whilst im on the subject, what do you advise to coat van floors-perhaps marine paint?any ideas of where to purchase and cost, cheers dave a

NWH

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 10:00:36 pm »
Yes it can damage over time if the paintwork is chipped and it ruins chrome badges on vehicles.

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 10:02:46 pm »
Use protecta-cote on the floor lining

www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/van_bedliner.html


pjulk

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 10:21:49 pm »
I would never use pure water on my car just incase and even if it was ok might take some of the polish off.

My car gets washed and polished by hand with proper car shampoo and polish

niceandclean

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 10:30:16 pm »
Alot of car dealers use pure water now to wash the cars!

NWH

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 10:31:55 pm »
Not as pure as you think.

geefree

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 10:34:38 pm »
use it on van... and car every week

RSWindows

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 02:50:40 pm »
yep, i was just reading some information this about 45mins ago and it does clearly state that pure water is "very aggressive" and will make the rust process greatly accelerated on anything metalic. I was shocked to be honest but after i gave it a little thaught it did make scense.

Tosh

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 03:17:07 pm »
yep, i was just reading some information this about 45mins ago and it does clearly state that pure water is "very aggressive" and will make the rust process greatly accelerated on anything metalic. I was shocked to be honest but after i gave it a little thaught it did make scense.

Have you checked the TDS of rainwater?  I've found it to be around 3 to 7 PPM; so almost zero TDS.

So pure water can't be any more 'aggressive' than rain water.

Not only that, I always use pure water to rinse my car after using a liquid shampoo and wax, and it always comes up great.

And this 'aggressive' is just sales-patter.

seandyer2003

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 03:35:03 pm »
i was gonna mention rain, and why would water that has lost some mineral content be all of a sudden more ferocious :)

Tosh

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2008, 03:43:01 pm »
i was gonna mention rain, and why would water that has lost some mineral content be all of a sudden more ferocious :)

I'm not sure how pure water was originally described as 'aggressive' I think it was in some leaflet a window cleaner used to inform his customers how his WFP system worked; or it could be from the Ionics training course.

But it's just a metaphor for saying that pure water has good cleaning abilities.


matt

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2008, 03:45:34 pm »
can pure water damage cars

yes, fill up a 25 L barrel

climb ladder with barrel ( now be carefull with this, its heavy )

throw barrel at roof of car


result, big massive dent in car roof

seandyer2003

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2008, 03:48:36 pm »
can pure water damage cars

yes, fill up a 25 L barrel

climb ladder with barrel ( now be carefull with this, its heavy )

throw barrel at roof of car


result, big massive dent in car roof

hehe, what are you doing on ladders though they are banned, get rid of them now they are useless :)

Tosh

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2008, 03:50:41 pm »
if we need to seal the floor of our vans to protect from pure water leakages,are pure water systems suitable for cleaning cars?

Oh, and any moisture, whether it be pure water, rain water, or tap water wouldn't be good for the floor of your van, especially in Winter when it'll stay wet pretty-much permenantly.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2008, 04:42:32 pm »
If your lacquer top layer on your car is not good, don't rinse with pure water, I did, and it left little specs on the entire van lol.

I need to t-cut the thing really, colour has faded.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2008, 05:56:17 pm »
If your lacquer top layer on your car is not good, don't rinse with pure water, I did, and it left little specs on the entire van lol.

I need to t-cut the thing really, colour has faded.
Pure water will fade your paint in the first place.
Once the polish is taken off the sun and rain will flatten the finish.
Obviously you'll get away with it on metallics.

JSMC

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008, 05:57:53 pm »
Di water damages metal big time. my mate is manger of a distillery and the guys who make the tanks told me it is rotting the tanks quicker than normal tap water.

Tosh

Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2008, 06:15:22 pm »
If your lacquer top layer on your car is not good, don't rinse with pure water, I did, and it left little specs on the entire van lol.

I need to t-cut the thing really, colour has faded.
Pure water will fade your paint in the first place.
Once the polish is taken off the sun and rain will flatten the finish.
Obviously you'll get away with it on metallics.


Rubbish.  Professional car valeters with posh vans use pure water.  Fact.

NWH

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2008, 06:22:17 pm »
Di water damages metal big time. my mate is manger of a distillery and the guys who make the tanks told me it is rotting the tanks quicker than normal tap water.
That`s correct,Tosh i clean my van with pure water and the badges are rotting.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: can pure water damage cars
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2008, 06:31:44 pm »
What's the science behind why DI water rots metal quicker than regular water then?

I use it to do my car and it doesn't seem to have affected the chrome-work yet.

YET, being the operative word.

Maybe I haven't done it enough times.