[mistersqueegee]

Sounds sensible Tim. I'm not trying to cause a problem but I will say they are called accidents for a reason. You can never plan to avoid them all. There is a scientific theory that says 0 mistakes are a mathmatical impossibility. It's great to do everything we can to make sure nothing goes wrong but if we do something enough times a mistake can happen.

[EVER CLEAN]

Just to add, I do still use ladders for one or two things, mostly flat roofs, but I make sure I've always got two things, that's my ladderm8rix and ladder mits. On top of that I make sure that accidents like the afore mentioned cannot happen under any circumstance.

ok tim youve got your mat and your mits and nothing can happen under any circumstances, well if this is your attitude that nothing can happen because youv'e put mitts on your ladder, then you are sadly mistaken!
its a case of am i capable of doing this job in this manner with these tools, if the answer is yes to all three, then i do it if i answer no to one then i dont its as simple as that

listen, we take chances every day of our lives, walking to the shops, crossing the road, eating at the local kebab house, its all a potential danger to our existance

the question vivaro asked was should i harness to a ladder, this doesnt come with experience, its pure common sense of which he has none, so i didnt belittle him in any way

my point is people like him should NOT even attempt to price the job, never mind do it

[EVER CLEAN]

and another thing tim
if you think you are immune to accidents because you've got mitts on your ladder, then you're lacking in the common sense department too..........OK

[[GQC] Tim]

Ever Clean, if you would have taken the time to read my post properly, you would have seen that nowhere in there I said I thought I was immune because I'm using mitts and a mat.

listen, we take chances every day of our lives, walking to the shops, crossing the road, eating at the local kebab house, its all a potential danger to our existance

There is a difference when crossing the road at ground level or working 40ft in the air, come on seriously.

Why so easily offended anyway.

[gordonswindows]

Nah i'm with Ever clean on this one

It is the inexperienced idiots that make things unsafe and this one should not be thinking about pricing work he is not capable of doing.

Tying yourself to a ladder? that is as nearly as daft as using a ladder over a door which can be opened or a garage that can be used!!!

Ever Clean is right enough, are you capable are you careful do you know what you are doing ok do the job

Now working at 40ft is high but not nearly as dangerous as crossing a road,how many people were killed in falls from 40ft ladder work last year compared with how many people were killed crossing a road

You see ? Life is dangerous and it is the people who tell you to climb a ladder to afix a safety point before you climb the ladder to work that are making this world a dangerous place

A study in Sweden proved that more cyclists wearing safety vests and helmets were knocked off their bikes than cyclists without hi-vis vests or helmets.

It turned out that the "un-protected cyclist" was given more room as the driver passed compared with the protected cyclist, the reason given is because the cyclist was wearing safety gear he was less likely to be hurt and so wasn't given the same amount of concern whereas the other bloke with no helmet or safety gear was looked out for.

Safety equipment can give a false sense of security and this is when more accidents happen.A trapeze artist who works with a net will fall more often than another who uses no net; the reason is the one without the net concentrates more he respects the danger more and he is more careful

don't believe me?  this lad was trying to be safe by tying himself to a ladder.Safety first is a good idea  yet if you work untethered to a ladder you will be more careful you won't overstretch and even if the ladder does slip you have a chance to jump clear instead of being dragged down by your "safety" equipment tied to a ladder.

[seandyer2003]

Nah i'm with Ever clean on this one

It is the inexperienced idiots that make things unsafe and this one should not be thinking about pricing work he is not capable of doing.

Tying yourself to a ladder? that is as nearly as daft as using a ladder over a door which can be opened or a garage that can be used!!!

Ever Clean is right enough, are you capable are you careful do you know what you are doing ok do the job

Now working at 40ft is high but not nearly as dangerous as crossing a road,how many people were killed in falls from 40ft ladder work last year compared with how many people were killed crossing a road

You see ? Life is dangerous and it is the people who tell you to climb a ladder to afix a safety point before you climb the ladder to work that are making this world a dangerous place

A study in Sweden proved that more cyclists wearing safety vests and helmets were knocked off their bikes than cyclists without hi-vis vests or helmets.

It turned out that the "un-protected cyclist" was given more room as the driver passed compared with the protected cyclist, the reason given is because the cyclist was wearing safety gear he was less likely to be hurt and so wasn't given the same amount of concern whereas the other bloke with no helmet or safety gear was looked out for.

Safety equipment can give a false sense of security and this is when more accidents happen.A trapeze artist who works with a net will fall more often than another who uses no net; the reason is the one without the net concentrates more he respects the danger more and he is more careful

don't believe me?  this lad was trying to be safe by tying himself to a ladder.Safety first is a good idea  yet if you work untethered to a ladder you will be more careful you won't overstretch and even if the ladder does slip you have a chance to jump clear instead of being dragged down by your "safety" equipment tied to a ladder.

Jump from 40 foot hehe what are you - spiderman??

[gordonswindows]

yeah which means if i break both legs i still have six others ha ha