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wcs.

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« on: October 12, 2008, 09:19:38 pm »
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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 09:22:15 pm »
Any body had ideas?
We cover quite a few areas and growing  ;)

Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 10:40:49 pm »
Any body had ideas?
We cover quite a few areas and growing  ;)


How many counties?
about 15/16 maybe more and growing with the right people  ;)

lovewindows

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2008, 02:50:11 pm »
Any body had ideas?
Do you mean something like taking on indepth etc by joining together to bid for national contracts as we probably collectivley cover the country ? with our lower overheads we would be cheaper, i'm in
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

JSMC

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2008, 03:27:06 pm »
very good idea

Big Dave @ CWC

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2008, 03:53:38 pm »
im in too ;D

Dean Taberner

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 03:54:38 pm »
Me too.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

niceandclean

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2008, 04:06:49 pm »
I cant see how it would work?

Steve CM

Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 04:11:59 pm »
I cant see how it would work?

me too!  :-\ i know of another company that does it similar. the keep the cream then off load the crap. if someone was controlling it centrally thats what they'd do!

niceandclean

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 04:16:28 pm »
I cant see how it would work?

me too!  :-\ i know of another company that does it similar. the keep the cream then off load the crap. if someone was controlling it centrally thats what they'd do!
Exactly! Nobody is going to run it for nothing, it would be like sub contracting to someone, so i cant see any point, unless someone can explain different?

jaykie

Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2008, 04:18:22 pm »
Ive thought about something like this, this is why i bought the name www.trusted-window-cleaners.co.uk and national-window-cleaners.co.uk  so i could put links to other cleaners in each town, this isnt compotition for window washers as i dont intend on doing it full time just to get me more coverege.

Chris

niceandclean

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 04:22:44 pm »
Ive thought about something like this, this is why i bought the name www.trusted-window-cleaners.co.uk and national-window-cleaners.co.uk  so i could put links to other cleaners in each town, this isnt compotition for window washers as i dont intend on doing it full time just to get me more coverege.

Chris

So you would put links to other window cleaners, and if you got a job in another area you would pass it on free of charge? To me all this sounds like is a directory of cleaners across the country.

Steve CM

Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2008, 04:28:19 pm »
Ive thought about something like this, this is why i bought the name www.trusted-window-cleaners.co.uk and national-window-cleaners.co.uk  so i could put links to other cleaners in each town, this isnt compotition for window washers as i dont intend on doing it full time just to get me more coverege.

Chris

So you would put links to other window cleaners, and if you got a job in another area you would pass it on free of charge? To me all this sounds like is a directory of cleaners across the country.

...and has been done numerous times

lovewindows

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2008, 05:13:37 pm »
This is how i would see it.
1/ We look at what areas we can cover, most if not all wfp users have vans so could cover a county ie i could do anywhere in Cheshire, and register centrally
2/ We ensure all "members" are a/ proficient b/ insured c/ comply with H&S requirments.
3/ We set a price structure [ probably based on man hours ] varients can be settled via pictures on this forum.
4/ We appoint a represntative [ commission based ] to approach national companies and tender for contracts. [ someone who's really good at it ]
5/ If contract won work, divided  by area. paid centrally then commision deducted and spread to contractors .
The hard part would be to set all this in motion, the best bet would be to arrange a meeting around the Birmingham area all those interested attend [ dont attend dont take part ! ] then we could thrash out all the niggles.
I know i haven't covered everything and i'm sure "NEGATIVITY" will come into this , but i remember that song about the ants and the rubber tree plant [ yes i'm that old ] the basic premise is TOGETHER we can do anything. On our own we couldn't hope to compete with the nationals but collectively they couldn't hope to compete with us !

Let this run for a bit, and see where it goes if it looks like it's going pear shaped  anyone seriously interested e-mail me .   
 
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2008, 05:16:18 pm »
I like the idea  ;D

Need to be financial viable for the end contractor and the guy thats getting the commision dealing with the contracts.

lovewindows

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2008, 05:20:06 pm »
I like the idea  ;D

Need to be financial viable for the end contractor and the guy thats getting the commision dealing with the contracts.
Thats in the pricing structure ie £50 an hour, [ still prob cheaper than the nationals ] the guy getting commision if any good could make "serious" money.
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

lovewindows

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2008, 05:22:25 pm »
I like the idea  ;D

Need to be financial viable for the end contractor and the guy thats getting the commision dealing with the contracts.
Thats in the pricing structure ie £50 an hour, [ still prob cheaper than the nationals ] the guy getting commision if any good could make "serious" money.

Sorry forgot to mention our overheads dont contain a/ much travel as is local ,and b / no middle management
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

Dean Taberner

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2008, 06:18:37 pm »
I'm definately up for giving it a go.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

niceandclean

  • Posts: 1897
Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2008, 06:22:59 pm »
Surely you would have to go under one name? Use all the companies idents and paperwork ect?
It would take a lot of work and time for someone to look after it and get the work. In theory its a good idea, but you would have to have the right person running it all! The problem also would be trust, trusting the other cleaners in the different counties as not to loose the contract and the guy chairing it!

RSWindows

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Re: National Window Cleaning
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2008, 08:43:20 pm »
cant see it working all that well. all it would take would be for one lazy ass individual to make a balls of a job and everyone else would suffer the consequeces. national contracts can be very lucrative if the right approach is made and the service and quality is top notch. but with many different people trading as one there will be different standards of service and quality provided. people could at one point could rely on this work to put bread on their table and some joker who is part of the agreement decides to damn it up for everyone else and EVERYONE suffers the consequences.

sorry for the negatives guys but is a realistic picture of what will happen at some point