[Simon Brannon]

still new to the game but heard about resin regeneration -

how is it done and is it worth it ?

Thanks
Simon

[Chris Galloway]

www.abawatersystems.com/regenerate2.htm

I think regeneration cost as much to produce as normal resin to produce.

Tulsion is a Virgin Resin as opposed to the widely supplied Regenerated Resin. Virgin Resin lasts longer than Regenerated Resin, ensuring you get more for your money. We have had many reports from our customers stating that they have found Tulsion resin to last twice or three times as long as other brands.

taken from...

www.da-services.co.uk/products.htm

[Simon Brannon]

Thanks Chris

have you tried the Tulsion resin ?

Simon

[Alex Gardiner]

Environmentally resin regeneration could be a the 'greener' choice. However the regeneration process is quite involved and to get a high quality regeneration needs a sophisticated factory set-up. If regeneration is done to a high enough standard then the resin can perform to a just as a high a standard as most virgin resins. The real problem for most users is getting the resin to a factory to have it regenerated as there are environmental considerations to the transportation of the resin.

A solution is to have a delivery and exchange system, where-by as a new batch of resin is delivered to you the old resin is picked-up for re-generation. We have a links to a commercial network for this type of service, but it does cost more to set-up initially as two of everything has to be bought to start with.

[Simon Brannon]

Thanks Alex
sounds complicated!!

What resin is best in your experience?

[Xline Systems]

dowex is the one
in my opinion not that your asking

[Alex Gardiner]

Thanks Alex
sounds complicated!!

What resin is best in your experience?

I have found that on the whole (but not always) Virgin resin will out perform regenerated. Generally speaking it is very hard to actually tell the difference and any perceived difference can often be water type dependant. One client will find that X brand lasts longer, another client will find that in his part of the country X brand lasts less time than Y brand. Any claims for a certain type of resin should be backed up with an actual test process proving this - not just anecdotal evidence.

It is worth asking this question to those who use resin in your area as they will be treating  a similar quality of water to you. They may have already gone through a few types and found one that they find last well.

[Xline Systems]

resin is a hard one to judge, as the tds is not always the same leaving the ro. so accurate readings would be hard

[DASERVICES]

Alex is right as it all depends on your water quality.

Resin is made up of two types of resins, Anions and Cations and the split is genarally 40/60.

Your water generally contains the following which the resin extract from the water. Anion will extract Calcuim, Magnesium etc.., Cation will extract Chloride, Sulphate etc..

Depending upon what mix you have in your water what you some times find is that you could have a high Anion content in your water so no matter what resin you use you sometimes will find very little difference in the performance of resin.

Whereas in a lot of cases you will find what product best suits your water and in some cases one product will perform 3 times longer than the lowest performing product.

There are various grades of resin and what you will find that the products that you are using were not designed for the window cleaning market. These products are now used for window cleaning but they were primrary designed for usage else where. For example Purolite can be used for tropical fish, if you used other resins you would probably kill the fish as they are not designed for that market.

The only resin which is solely used for window cleaning is Tulsion as it was first designed for window cleaners in America, it does not serve any other purpose other than a spot free clean. Other products on the market are used elsewhere in Industry.

Speaking to a lot of my customers and other window cleaners I know is the two brands they have found to be good are Tulsion and Dowex. However there are some that do not see any difference as discussed above.

Most suppliers chop and change their resins as due to prices and a few will say that price is a key issue rather than performance. Very strange but people would prefer to buy a cheaper resin than a high quality performing resin. Tulsion and Dowex are the two most expensive resins for suppliers to Purchase. Now here is the interesting thing I learnt, Tulsion sells resin to Dowex on the odd occasions.

What you need to be aware of is some companies are using Anion resin from China which is of low quality which they then use in their lower volume products. If your anion content is low then you may not see much of a difference, but if high then your resin will exhaust very quickly. This is because there is a world wide shortage of capacity and at a meeting that I attended some manufacturers were thinking of stopping producing the lower volume items which is a worrying thought as it could effect window cleaning. Lead times are now shooting out to 10 weeks and with the Holiday period coming if orders have not been placed then some suppliers will be out of stock as all resin comes from the Far East.

In summary your water quality is very dependant on the performance of your resin so as Alex has said try and find what suits your needs.

[Simon Brannon]

Thanks for that D.A thats brilliant - trying Dowex resin this time as Purolite seemed to exhaust really quickly last bag.

Will be in touch next time to try some Tulsion from you.

Simon