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Poll

Do you feel safe? is your tank.

250 lt strapped
7.9%
5 (7.9%)
250 bolted
3.2%
2 (3.2%)
400 strapped
12.7%
8 (12.7%)
400 bolted
17.5%
11 (17.5%)
650 strapped
17.5%
11 (17.5%)
650 bolted
20.6%
13 (20.6%)
1000 strapped
1.6%
1 (1.6%)
1000 lt bolted
4.8%
3 (4.8%)
other-strapped
4.8%
3 (4.8%)
other -bolted
9.5%
6 (9.5%)

Total Members Voted: 61

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« on: September 23, 2008, 07:48:50 pm »
Just curious as to how safe we are... honest answers please  :D

jeff1

  • Posts: 5855
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 07:50:55 pm »
I bolted my daughters down and if she carry's any drums I strap them down until I have built a cage for the drums.

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 07:54:12 pm »
I bolted my daughters down and if she carry's any drums I strap them down until I have built a cage for the drums.

hi jeff.

i have a 400 flat ..strapped at the moment... as the guy from the fabricating company has bottled out of fixing my 650 upright th the chassis...

he said the straps metal straps are no problem nut i will have to find someone else to bolt it down as he does not want the responsibility if anything happens.....

now im stuck... he said find a guy who will fit it and get a drawing for him

Alex Gardiner

  • Posts: 7744
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 07:55:53 pm »
Both! 300+ litre custom tank, bolted-in custom made restraint bars and a ratchet strap for good measure.

jeff1

  • Posts: 5855
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2008, 07:57:40 pm »
Hi Gazz
If its metal straps? you have then I would still be happy with that, Just fit it the way I showed in my post last week and you'll be fine.

You live to far from me, so I can't help you, I wish I could.

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2008, 08:00:31 pm »
yes its metal... but he said i have to give him a drawing, so he can make them bang on for the chassis... for someone else to fit.... i dcan do most things... or have a go at least.... but i dare not mess with that Jeff.

thanks tho  ;)

R.V.A Window Cleaning Services

  • Posts: 193
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2008, 08:05:39 pm »
custom made 450ltr bolted,
In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king

tompoole

  • Posts: 800
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2008, 08:06:51 pm »
hothing wrong with using straps , as long as they are correct spec and secured correctly

300 litre

jeff1

  • Posts: 5855
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2008, 08:09:18 pm »
yes its metal... but he said i have to give him a drawing, so he can make them bang on for the chassis... for someone else to fit.... i dcan do most things... or have a go at least.... but i dare not mess with that Jeff.

thanks tho  ;)
You need to get under your van and measure the width of a single chassis member, then measure from one chassis to the other, and calculate the correct distance, or if you can get someone to help you take the measurements from the center of each chassis, so that when your guy makes the straps they will sit centrally directly above each chassis member.

When you measure the length of the chassis,( The size of your tank) make sure the fuel tank isn't in the way, If it is you may have to drop your fuel tank to fit it


geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2008, 08:09:38 pm »
i just dont think the steel rings on the floor will hold the 650 litres if i had an accident, regardless of how many tons the straps will hold.... its what they holding onto which bothers me !  ???

steven ainger

  • Posts: 1953
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2008, 08:10:00 pm »
straps
 500ltr upright

Roger Slater

Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 08:10:35 pm »
For example if you have a 600 litre tank strapped and bolted doing 60mph down a motorway to your jobs and have a collision there can only be one outcome (YOUR DEAD) unless some of the Clean It Up Gods are on your side.

I dont feel safe with my tank in the back and i have done everything possible to secure it. Just goes with the territory i suppose.

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 08:13:55 pm »
For example if you have a 600 litre tank strapped and bolted doing 60mph down a motorway to your jobs and have a collision there can only be one outcome (YOUR DEAD) unless some of the Clean It Up Gods are on your side.

I dont feel safe with my tank in the back and i have done everything possible to secure it. Just goes with the territory i suppose.

i think that could apply to any vehicle at that speed..... there must be some way though... big vans carry more weight... lorrys and trucks do..... half a ton in back of a tranny should be able to withstand something if its totally bolted.?

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 08:34:10 pm »
voting 50/50 at mo

geefree

  • Posts: 6180
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 09:15:31 pm »
yes its metal... but he said i have to give him a drawing, so he can make them bang on for the chassis... for someone else to fit.... i dcan do most things... or have a go at least.... but i dare not mess with that Jeff.

thanks tho  ;)
You need to get under your van and measure the width of a single chassis member, then measure from one chassis to the other, and calculate the correct distance, or if you can get someone to help you take the measurements from the center of each chassis, so that when your guy makes the straps they will sit centrally directly above each chassis member.

When you measure the length of the chassis,( The size of your tank) make sure the fuel tank isn't in the way, If it is you may have to drop your fuel tank to fit it



thanks jeff , you make it sound easy... dropping fuel tank?

Thanks again jeff, i will pass on what you say to someone who knows how to do it.

jeff1

  • Posts: 5855
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 09:28:01 pm »
Nice to see your taking it responsibly Gaz, if your unsure on what to do always get someone who does know, to do it for you.  ;)

matt

Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 09:57:16 pm »
For example if you have a 600 litre tank strapped and bolted doing 60mph down a motorway to your jobs and have a collision there can only be one outcome (YOUR DEAD) unless some of the Clean It Up Gods are on your side.

I dont feel safe with my tank in the back and i have done everything possible to secure it. Just goes with the territory i suppose.

i think that could apply to any vehicle at that speed..... there must be some way though... big vans carry more weight... lorrys and trucks do..... half a ton in back of a tranny should be able to withstand something if its totally bolted.?

park outside any builders yard and watch builders loading vans, pallet of bricks, cement mixer, 10 bags of cement etc etc, all put in the back of a transit

risks are risks, we all take them in life, keep them as low as you can, thats all you can do

Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 11:00:26 pm »
For example if you have a 600 litre tank strapped and bolted doing 60mph down a motorway to your jobs and have a collision there can only be one outcome (YOUR DEAD) unless some of the Clean It Up Gods are on your side.

I dont feel safe with my tank in the back and i have done everything possible to secure it. Just goes with the territory i suppose.

i think that could apply to any vehicle at that speed..... there must be some way though... big vans carry more weight... lorrys and trucks do..... half a ton in back of a tranny should be able to withstand something if its totally bolted.?

park outside any builders yard and watch builders loading vans, pallet of bricks, cement mixer, 10 bags of cement etc etc, all put in the back of a transit

risks are risks, we all take them in life, keep them as low as you can, thats all you can do
Matt, they do not drive around all day every day with this, everything is a risk, but as I said before I hope you have put a disclaimer on your site.

Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 02:43:29 pm »
I have my 500L loose in the back of my van, is that a problem then?

jeff1

  • Posts: 5855
Re: Tank bolted or strapped -poll
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 06:59:28 pm »
I have my 500L loose in the back of my van, is that a problem then?
Have an accident with that size of tank loose in the back of your van and you could end up with a serious injury or worst still, you won't be back on to let us know, Strap or bolt it down for yours and passengers safety.